Why the women in Seattle are holding their breath...

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Coolguy777:</div><div class="quote_post">OK if you can tell me ONE THING in what I said that was belitting to Welch as a player or even as a person then I can understand that. BUT i said nothing negative about welsch I said we have no need for him...and by the way I watch a fair amount of Celtics basketball. All I said was we have atleast 3 guards that are better. Simply put. Hes not going to play over Allen or Daniels and Ridnour is our point guard. We have no need for him. Please dont try to suggest I say something that I didnt say. I dont like being quoted and then have someone putting words in my mouth</div>I think it was your insinuation that two point guards can do a better job of playing the off-guard/small forward spot better than Welsch can. I mean, some one that watches a "fair" amount of Celtics games would know that that is what Jiri plays, wouldn't they? Sure, the Sonics occasionally play Daniels as a shooting guard, but is he a better fit for it then Welsch is? Let me see Daniels try to defend the likes of Lebron, Kobe, and McGrady. All last year, Jiri was always given the toughest defensive assignment, and he was highly regarded by two different coaching staffs for his defensive abilities. Oh, what's that you say? You mean there is more to basketball then just offense? Holy Moly!

Seriously, you make it sound like you wouldn't take the guy, even if all you traded for him was the team mascot.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it was your insinuation that two point guards can do a better job of playing the off-guard/small forward spot better than Welsch can. I mean, some one that watches a "fair" amount of Celtics games would know that that is what Jiri plays, wouldn't they? Sure, the Sonics occasionally play Daniels as a shooting guard, but is he a better fit for it then Welsch is? Let me see Daniels try to defend the likes of Lebron, Kobe, and McGrady. All last year, Jiri was always given the toughest defensive assignment, and he was highly regarded by two different coaching staffs for his defensive abilities. Oh, what's that you say? You mean there is more to basketball then just offense? Holy Moly!

Seriously, you make it sound like you wouldn't take the guy, even if all you traded for him was the team mascot.</div>




Again throwing more words into my mouth..Because somehow saying that Seattle wouldnt mix up their rotation to put in welsch means I dont believe in defense. Seriously your becoming ignorant in what you say...maybe you were before and I just wasnt paying attention. Why would Seattle change their lineup for Welsch? hes a solid player but Ridnour and Daniels have been excellent for us and were actually a GOOD team so why in the world would we make a move like this? It just isnt logical to give up a player that we consider to be a future good player for a guy that its arguable if he could even break our rotation. and by the way Sasquat is an intergal part of the Sonic squad..I just dont think it would be a good idea to mess up our chemistry by trading him.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Coolguy777:</div><div class="quote_post">Again throwing more words into my mouth..Because somehow saying that Seattle wouldnt mix up their rotation to put in welsch means I dont believe in defense. Seriously your becoming ignorant in what you say...maybe you were before and I just wasnt paying attention. Why would Seattle change their lineup for Welsch? hes a solid player but Ridnour and Daniels have been excellent for us and were actually a GOOD team so why in the world would we make a move like this? It just isnt logical to give up a player that we consider to be a future good player for a guy that its arguable if he could even break our rotation. and by the way Sasquat is an intergal part of the Sonic squad..I just dont think it would be a good idea to mess up our chemistry by trading him.</div>

Be cool Coolguy. All Thrilla was saying was that Jiri Welsch for Robert Swift trade was something that could benefit the Sonics in the long term. Ray, Daniels, and Flip could all potentially be free agents next year and it seems as if Welsch style of play fits in well w/ Seattle.

I don't agree at all that we should pursue Welsch in a trade nor do I believe that we should look to trade Bobby Swift. But I'm not going to dismiss the fact that there are potential pieces that could help us in a trade. Antonio Daniels and Luke Ridnour are not the cream of the crop in terms of point guards. We could use some back court help this year if our free agents decide to sign somewhere else. So before you dismiss every possible trade rumor, at least give someone an opportunity to give the argument as to why it could be beneficial to both parties.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iron Shiek:</div><div class="quote_post">Be cool Coolguy. All Thrilla was saying was that Jiri Welsch for Robert Swift trade was something that could benefit the Sonics in the long term. Ray, Daniels, and Flip could all potentially be free agents next year and it seems as if Welsch style of play fits in well w/ Seattle.

I don't agree at all that we should pursue Welsch in a trade nor do I believe that we should look to trade Bobby Swift. But I'm not going to dismiss the fact that there are potential pieces that could help us in a trade. Antonio Daniels and Luke Ridnour are not the cream of the crop in terms of point guards. We could use some back court help this year if our free agents decide to sign somewhere else. So before you dismiss every possible trade rumor, at least give someone an opportunity to give the argument as to why it could be beneficial to both parties.</div>


Shiek I said we dont need them for this year and he came at me and put words in my mouth. Im going to say something back obvously when hes making it look like im saying things im not.

 

You've reached your limit on the phrase "put words in my mouth".

Seriously, have you ever had a disagreement with anybody in your life before me?

It's as simple as this: You came in after Shiek and I had ended our discussion, and you basically said the same thing as he originally did. You said you didn't like the deal, and gave your opinion that all of the Sonics guards are better players than he is.

I didn't think that was a fair statement so I responded, because in my opinion, that's an insult to him. I think that any team would be willing to have him, and you wouldn't even trade Sasquatch for him. I have no problem with us disagreeing. I'm sure I'll survive.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that any team would be willing to have him, and you wouldn't even trade Sasquatch for him.</div>
Squatch > j00

 

Can Jiri do this?



That's what I thought.

 

More Boston/Seattle Rumors:

I guess Chad Ford was on 1510 The Zone, a sports radio station in Boston.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He says that the Celtics and Sonics have talked about a Paul Pierce for Ray Allen deal. The deal is apparently off the table now because it isn't enough from the C's perspective, and the C's management is pushing to keep Paul. However, if the Sonics were to "sweeten" the deal, it could be considered. Names he threw out include Daniels, Radmanovic, and Swift. No details, just vague rumors.

Ray Allen apparently really wants to come to Boston (ties from UConn). His contract extension talks are held up significantly.</div>

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Now this is funny. If the Celtics can get one of those three by throwing in Jiri or Payton, I'd be all for it. If not, Pierce for Ray isn't a fair deal. It only would be if Ray's contract wasn't expiring.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44Thrilla:</div><div class="quote_post">You've reached your limit on the phrase "put words in my mouth".

Seriously, have you ever had a disagreement with anybody in your life before me?

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I used to the phrase in both my posts because you put words in my mouth in 2 post...it makes sense.