Why Tony Parker is not a Star

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  1. Eclipse

    Eclipse JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting spotupjumper:</div><div class="quote_post">Marbury can dominate in one-on-one matchups, and if he had someone like Duncan to run pick and rolls with, it would be insane.</div>

    well he had his chance with Garnett and he screwed it up, he only has himself to blame

    he should be winning championships with Garnett, not struggling to make the playoffs with the Knicks
     
  2. spotupjumper

    spotupjumper JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting _EcLiPsE_:</div><div class="quote_post">well he had his chance with Garnett and he screwed it up, he only has himself to blame

    he should be winning championships with Garnett, not struggling to make the playoffs with the Knicks</div>
    Garnett in 96-98 was a lot different than the Garnett of today.
     
  3. Eclipse

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    true, but everyone knew back then that he had the potential to become the player he is today, even Marbury

    on top of that they were best friends, but he left all that to run his own team thinking he could do it by himself

    don't get me wrong, i like Marbury a lot, but i just think he made a bad decision
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting zonebeast:</div><div class="quote_post">i think parker is not in the top10 pg its my opinion
    1.Kidd
    2.Francis
    3.Davis
    4.Cassell
    5.Marbury
    6.Nash
    7.Arenas
    8.Bibby
    9.Payton
    10.Billups</div>Horrible list. Some of these guys aren't even true point guards.
     
  5. spotupjumper

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting _EcLiPsE_:</div><div class="quote_post">true, but everyone knew back then that he had the potential to become the player he is today, even Marbury

    on top of that they were best friends, but he left all that to run his own team thinking he could do it by himself

    don't get me wrong, i like Marbury a lot, but i just think he made a bad decision</div>
    yeah that's true, KG wasn't hidden talent in the league. About him being traded to NJ.... how much say did he have in that trade. I don't remeber it well, but I know he wasn't in NJ for that long.
     
  6. Eclipse

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    i remember he wanted to go to NJ because it's close to where he grew up in NY, it was the next best thing to playing for the Knick at the time and he was happy to go
     
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    I like Tony Parker and he have the potential to be the top PG but he's not the top five as of right now. He's too inconsistent.
     
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    He Never Dunks, And He's FRENCH!
     
  9. Kaillou

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    Tony Parker may not be looked at as an All-Star, or as a top PG, but in the playoffs, he absolutely turns it on. The kid is like 20 and he already has an NBA Championship.. the kid is living the good life, and unlike Jason Kidd, or Stephon Marbury, Parker has a ring. He is a clutch playoff performer.
     
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    Time to jump off the Tony Parker bandwagon? Such an exhilarating four days while it lasted, wasn't it?
     
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    Tony Parker isn't a star because he takes himself out of games. Not just on the offensive end, but on the defensive end as well. Look at all the great PGs, when they are having a bad game on one end, they turn it up on another end.

    As it stands now, when one part of Parker's game isn't working, he just stops contributing. And you can see it in his eyes.

    When he learns to keep going, and play through the droughts, he'll be a star.
     
  12. STC

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Time to jump off the Tony Parker bandwagon? Such an exhilarating four days while it lasted, wasn't it?</div>

    No, he is still a great player. He is only 21 years old, he is going to have lots of problems.
     
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    I think I might have touched on this once already, but, I have something to say again. I think Parker showed why he is not a star yet. He went from absolutely dominating the Lakers in games 1 and 2, averaging 25 ppg. Than, when the defense switched up on him and started to collapse on him and what not, he didn't respond well at all. He started taking bad shots, turned the ball over a lot more, did a lot of things wrong. I think, in order for you to be considered a star or a top player, you have to adjust to others adjustments. Basically, if a team adjusts on defense and starts playing you different to stop you, you have to find a way to do something to counter it. Find other ways to score, do anything. Adjust to the defense. And, he didn't do that. His average went from 25 ppg to 12.5 pgg. He didn't adjust at all.
     
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    Well, you gotta give the kid some credit, for a 21 year old out of France, he can ball. He has the ability to turn it on in the playoffs, but as it was already pointed out, once the defense started catching on to his game, he couldnt really adjust. But you cant over-look the performances he had in game 1 and 2. In 3 or 4 years, we'll be looking at Parker as a top 5 PG in the NBA.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kareem.02:</div><div class="quote_post">He Never Dunks, And He's FRENCH!</div>


    John Stockton never dunked and he's the best PG ever. Put that in your baguette, mon ami.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting cubanballer:</div><div class="quote_post">John Stockton never dunked and he's the best PG ever. Put that in your baguette, mon ami.</div>

    But people like flashy players, who throw down big dunks. Most people would rather watch Steve Francis, than watch John Stockton, because Francis is an uptempo, flashy player, and Stockton is all fundamentals.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting los:</div><div class="quote_post">Tony Parker isn't a star because he takes himself out of games. Not just on the offensive end, but on the defensive end as well. Look at all the great PGs, when they are having a bad game on one end, they turn it up on another end.

    As it stands now, when one part of Parker's game isn't working, he just stops contributing. And you can see it in his eyes.

    When he learns to keep going, and play through the droughts, he'll be a star.</div>


    So true, against Steph and the suns last year he basically let the world know he is fragile when his back is against the wall. He easily has the potential to be top a top 5 pg but he just needs more maturity and mental strength.
     
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    He's not a top 5 point guard, but he will undoubtedly be the best point guard in the league in the future, that means in a couple of years, especially after Kidd retires.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting STCBBall3:</div><div class="quote_post">But people like flashy players, who throw down big dunks. Most people would rather watch Steve Francis, than watch John Stockton, because Francis is an uptempo, flashy player, and Stockton is all fundamentals.</div>

    some people, some people. i for one, can't stand francis as pg. he's an sg. dunks are easy to see but it takes a real basketball mind to appreciate what a true pg does.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting STCBBall3:</div><div class="quote_post">Tony Parker is one of the best PGs in the NBA, yet he always gets left out when people talk about the best PGs in the NBA, especially the casual fan. Most people will say Stephon Marbury, Jason Kidd, Steve Francis or Baron Davis, but where is Tony Parker?

    I think the reason is that he plays in a small market, and does not have a flashy game. Tony Parker can knock down jumpers, and is a good floor leader. Come playoff time, he is extremely good. Tony Parker already has one championship ring at the age of 23. In the game against the Lakers, he seemed like an old NBA veteran who had been there many times.

    Plus, Tony Parker is not a cocky player, like all the other stars. Even Tony's teammate, Tim Duncan, does not get the publicity that he should because he does not promote himself or anything. Tony Parker can have a great game, without dropping 20 points, or dishing out 10 assists. He can run the pick and roll effectively, and play good defense, and his team wins, and it is a success. Most casual basketball fans, do not care for this type of play.

    Parker doesn't always make the highlight reel with his plays. He doesn't have a "killer cross" or throw down. I think, in a few years, Tony Parker will be considered, one of the top, if not the best PG, in the league. He has shown nice improvements over the last three years, and with all the playoff experience, will only become better.</div>

    one word- INCONSISTENT.
     

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