That's what he does though. He will try to take personal information and use it to really get at you. And if you look at my posts towards him before he posted the attack, which one of those posts was abrasive? I was merely asking him why he always had to come into a thread about Aldridge and freak out? He was in the middle of freaking out on Brian when I posted it, so it's not like I was the one who spun him up. He was already going at warp speed.
not to stick my nose in where it does not belong...you have admitted to having personal involvement as the basis of your ire towards PapaG..I have also recently seen posts that you have made directed at MarAzul that I pointed out as being antagonistic. You have a pattern of making the attack personal, and cry foul when it is done in turn.
How about if I un-ban PapaG then re-ban him so I'm the one who made the decision to ban? Then everyone should be happy.
I cry foul when someone attacks another poster about their personal life. I don't personally care if you call me stupid, or arrogant, or you think my opinions on the team are moronic. I care when someone brings up MM's cancer, or Kingspeed's bi-polar condition, or tries to attack crandc's lifestyle, etc etc etc. Maybe my post towards Marazul came off as antagonistic, but I was trying to point out that he didn't have the full perspective on PapaG because he doesn't post much on the main forum. I could have phrased it better, but the point I was trying to make was that he didn't have all the information. How did I personally attack PapaG though? What did I say that provoked his attack on me? Nobody can answer this, and yet I keep getting called out for "goading" or "trolling" him.
Honestly nate he didn't attack you with that comment he mistakenly made once. He realized he made it and refused to address it. You kept badgering him to acknowledge it and when he didn't you said something along the lines of how the fact he wasn't mentioning it meant something. Just as cmeese said, papa tried to avoid confrontation during that argument, i still advocate for papags right to post here, you can hate me for it...I just don't think papag deserved to be banned THIS TIME
Hey Nate..I am trying to be respectful and forthright in saying this, I dont think one would have to look through many threads to see where you and he would clash. Often for no reason other than you both seem to not like each other. Nothing wrong with that, I have a poster that I just cant allow myself to read for fear that I will want to jump on him and his posts with both feet...I cant help it..difference is that it does bring to question your ability to ban someone that you feel this way about. It is unfortunate that Sly did not perform that feat instead of you as there would be no apparent personal motive.
You have dealt for years you knew comments like that would not de-escalate the situation. But you posted it anyways. You know better than that.
How was he not attacking me with this post? I hadn't called him out. I merely asked him why he always behaved this way in LMA threads. I kept "badgering him" because I wanted to know what he meant. He completely ignored me and then got defensive about it. I posted this He posted this I think I remained pretty calm during the whole thing. He was the one being argumentative and inflammatory As I said, I wanted to know what he meant. I took his ignoring me to mean that he knew he had crossed a line, and he didn't want to admit that he had.
I don't see how people think Papa tried to avoid confrontation. Not defending Nate, he played his part. Just being honest. But in the end Papa isn't here and Nate is, so it's easy to point the finger all at Nate.
I respect your opinion, and I'm trying to hopefully explain WHY I did it, or at least how I viewed the situation. You're right, he and I have a long and storied feud that spans the course of years. The reason why I took action is because I was the one who unbanned him from the last permanent ban that he incurred. We allowed him back under the condition that the personal attacks would stop. Completely. He was on probation and there was no term for that probation. We didn't have to allow him back at all. So as the person who brought him back unilaterally, I felt that his breaking the conditions of his probation was justification to remove him again. This also wasn't the first time he has attacked people or gotten into arguments, so I think he had a lot of chances to change, but he simply couldn't.
I just think that A. People make mistakes, and B. It's just a sports forum, if some one calls you a loser or something you shouldn't take it to heart. That being said I see a lot of confrontation between both of you, and depending on how strict you want to be you could make a case for each of you personally attacking the other. I personally view it as neither of you really did much of anything.
I can honestly say that I think it's a shame PapaG is gone. He had his flaws, but I liked him. I can also say that he was a challenge for moderators, because he (in my experience) took it upon himself to peck at moderators, hoping to make them crack. It didn't bother me, but obviously that kind of behavior is going to be irritating to many of his targets.
Actually I picture this.. [video=youtube;6iaR3WO71j4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaR3WO71j4[/video]
Spud & I talked about how in the basketball forum, we'd make a comment or ask a question in the discussion and got ignored, where questions and comments from male posters got responses. Either by coincidence all the women are super boring posters or are views are considered by definition less important than men's.
I honestly do not recall you posting in the normal forum all that much in day to day Blazer discussions. Mainly see you in OT. And I had no clue spud was a girl. It seems like some girls think guys make their sex an issue, yet I have hardly ever seen a new poster come in and mention that they're a guy. For all I know, many of the new posters can be. But I have seen a few girls do it. BF was the worst in that she felt she needed to go over the top to somehow earn respect. Nobody gives a shit.
