Will Barton > Mo Williams

Rightfully so, good riddance.

 

To be fair it's because will had two good games and Wes had four bad games.

 

But this is the Will > Mo thread. Is there even a Will > Wes thread? And does anybody really think that?

 

Nah the blazer employee assigned to our forum just hates us.

 

The Blazers have a deadline this summer to extend Meyers for $3 million. I don't see any realistic chance of that happening. So Meyers will begin his final lame duck season where he is an expiring contract trade chip just as Nolan Smith, Elliot Williams, and Luke Babbitt all had. You've been beating this "wait for Meyers" drum for two years, but once a team passes on a rookie deal its over. BUST.

 

BGD probably does?

 

Wes is definitely far better than Will, I don't think any reasonable person here is saying Will should replace Wes on this team, but the idea is you can get more value in return for Wes than Wil. I highly doubt a Wes trade would give us enough back to be worth it in my opinion but I can understand other fans logic.

Mo has been very frustrating to watch. He dominates the ball and makes a lot of rookie mistakes. For a vet you'd think he would take better care of the ball and not force bad shots. He commits a ton of dumb fouls. Why is he guarding a player so close he will be called for a foul 90% of the time when there is no benefit? Partly its so frustrating because he has a great skill set, can really shoot the ball, and has one of the best mid range games in the league. But can you really call it potential when he's in his 30's? It seems like he could so easily be more effective if he had a coach like Popovich yelling at him earlier in his career. Kind of reminds me of Jamal Crawford.

 

Which is why I said: "I think next season is make or break for Leonard. He needs to show the kind of off-season improvement Joel Freeland did this year. If he does, great. If not, bye-bye."

Thanks for agreeing with me.

BNM

 

MLEC!

 

Leonard "the human toadstool"

 

As they should. Trading Wes because Will had a few solid games is crazy. We are forgetting the many bonehead plays Will makes.

 

I believe the thread title is will Barton > mo Williams. Nothing about Wes in that title.

 

The People's Champ was awesome in Gm 4. That said, can we count on a repeat (or close to) performance? When he's effective the Spurs don't seem to know what to do with him. How do you game plan for chaos? There's a fine line between being aggressive vs out of control, and The Thrill has to force that issue because he's limited in so many facets. You don't tell Will to let the game come to him. He has to play like his hair's on fire to have any chance of positively affecting the game. But we all know you're rolling the dice with him. In this series it doesn't look like we can beat the Spurs playing conventionally for 48 min. They can out-execute us blindfolded. We have to gamble with Will again tonight. The stretches he turns the game into a playground session are a total wild card. That's why in THIS series, Will needs to get the nod ahead of Mo. Still think Mo is better overall, but there's nothing he can bring that the a Spurs don't know how to deal with. On the other hand, Will is giving someone a headache tonight. It could be us, or it could be them.

 

Damn straight! Wes is a fucking WARRIOR! Just because his shot hasn't been falling lately, the dude does more for this team than many know. The best is his energy and defense!

But if we are talking about mo.... Well that's an entirely different story. And the real topic is using money that we would need for Mo on other players, since Barton could be our bench guard.

 

Mags..... it was a thread about Mo Williams and Will Barton. It had nothing to do with Wes.

 

Will is a roll of the dice, but so is Mo. And we've been blessed with Good Will way more than Good Mo this series.

To put it another way: in obviously limited minutes (so grain of salt), Will Barton has a PER of 22.8. Mo has a PER of 4.7.

http://bkref.com/tiny/ffHc8

This is the type of sparkplug player Will has been for us.

 

Yes the sample size is very small for Barton, but I just like seeing his effort and energy. I think in the series with SAS, we need speedy players that are long enough to create problems for their guards. I just don't see Mo being that guy off the bench. Who knows, maybe Barton will come back to Earth after we make it past the second round. Maybe then we can relive this debate...

 

The biggest difference, to me, is that Barton can play defense. Mo is a fucking sieve on defense.

 

He plays adequate defense (which is light years better than Mo) But more importantly, the energy both he and T-Rob bring off the bench is infectious to the entire team