<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Since Mcnabb and Culpepper have put up pedestrian numbers without TO/Moss, and then you penalize manning for having good recievers?</div> Culpepper played a whopping 5 1/2 games without Moss in his career. It is really difficult to say how he is going to do without him. Here are the stats from those 5 games: 10/17/2004 - vs NO - 26/37 425 5 2 10/24/2004 - vs TEN - 24/30 183 1 0 10/31/2004 - vs NYG - 24/42 231 1 2 11/14/2004 - vs GB - 27/44 363 4 0 11/21/2004 - vs DET - 22/32 233 2 1 11/28/2004 - vs JAC - 19/27 235 1 1 So, if we were to average the stats without the New Orleans game since Moss was in that game for the first half, we end up with the following line: Comp%: 66% Avg Yds/Game: 249 yds/game TDs/Game: 1.8 INTs/Game: 0.8 If you throw in the New Orleans game, you get even better results. Granted, these are lower than when he plays with Moss, but that is the same for any QB. If you also factor in how much Minnesota game plans around Moss and the fact that Culpepper was playing without him for the first time in his career, I'll take these 'pedestrian' numbers any day of the week. I also think 5 games is far too little to make any conclusions on how good Culpepper really is without Moss.