Will we have any cap space this summer?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It looks like we have a ton of space locked up with cap holds.

    Will we have any free space this summer if we renounce cap holds to facilitate taking back a larger salary?

    I'm horrible with cap stuff, so I'm hoping one of you guys know.
     
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    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

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    Don’t believe so
     
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    Not answering the question (I know) but I hope we can retain Matisse Thybulle and Kevin Knox for value deals. I don't think Cam Reddish can stay consistent. I would let him go.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    It won't be about signing a big name free agent not named Grant, but because Joe and his Staff have made the moves they have over the last 2 seasons, they have maneuverability to make deals and trades around the cap. I do think Jody has given them the ability to go over the cap for major moves. Especially since they're not going to be a repeater tax team.
     
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    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    If we renounced all of our free agents, then yes, we'd have cap space.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Not so much about free agents. I'm thinking more about lopsided trades in terms of salaries.
     
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    well....

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    so about 113M in guarantees and dead salary. The NBA projects a 134M cap, so theoretically the Blazers could have 21M. But that' for only 9 players so deduct 3M down to 18M for roster charges

    then you have to start adding up the cap-holds:

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    obviously, Grant is the immediate monkey wrench to any cap-space plan. And the cap-holds of Reddish and Thybulle would pretty much kill any cap-space. Some of the cap-holds could obviously be renounced as a book-keeping transaction. Maybe the Blazers are planning of re-signing Eubanks for 2-4M but that would be more than his cap-hold so the Blazers could delay.

    and of course, there's the draft pick factor. If the Blazers have the 7th pick, again, it would be around a 6.5M cap-hold; the 3rd pick about 9M; te first pick (wemby math) about 11.5M. The 23rd pick would be around 2.6M

    bottom line is yeah, Portland could hypothetically have some space, but it would have to be a perfect storm of factors, and just about all of them are negative. I think the Blazers will be more concerned about having tradable contracts as filler so they might re-sign Thybulle and Reddish just for that reason. If they do offer QO's to any of those players, I can't remember if the QO is applied to the roster or the cap-hold. In other words, the answer to your question is almost certainly no

    one other factor to keep in mind: the NBA and player's union agreed to a new CBA and that starts in July. So their may be tweaks and adjustments to all of those numbers we don't know about yet
     
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  8. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Still paying Nicholson. This will be the last year but damn what a fuck up by Olshey. Still paying Bledsoe too.
     
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    Technically the Blazers aren't paying them, those checks were sent out same as any other players of those prior seasons. But it's dead money taking up cap space in 2024 so many years later. Those prior seasons we never signed an impactful free agent nor fielded a contending roster. So yes what a dumb fuckup by Olshey and then yes as you say repeated last summer by Cronin.
     
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    But that's what I'm saying, it's taking up cap space. I'll happy when it off the salary table.
     
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    No​
     
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    I think this is inaccurate if we renounce certain players.
     
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    So they will no or very little cap space and pretty much the same players.
    I see another poor year coming.
     
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    Well, I'm not expecting to go out and sign anyone. I just want to be able to absorb some lopsided trades.
     
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    Yes your broader point was valid, just the exact specific word of pay isnt precisely accurate.
     
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    Having cap space does have value besides signing a free agent.

    Teams can acquire bad contracts with picks, can acquire useful players for free, can take on more money in trades increasing the talent received, or have more money to resign players while avoiding luxury tax.

    However generally I'd say it's better to have players signed on reasonable salaries than to have cap space.

    The problem is the Blazers have historically handed out a lot of overpaid contracts that then have little to no trade value, or even negative value.
     
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    So true. I don't think Joe will operate like his predecessor . Joe , Mike , and Staff seem to really be , all in , on the process to get better. They've put the franchise in a place to have maneuverability that Olshey crapped away. They've got a better canvas now. Time to paint a pretty picture.
     
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    If we have a poor record near the trade deadline next season I would fully expect Dame to be traded for a boat-load of young players and draft picks.

    And if that were the case I think he would be alright with that.
     
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    this season rattled Blazer fans. There's more and more people becoming fanatical about kicking Dame and his massive salary out of town.

    Why? To save the owner money? What's the point of being concerned about a multi-billionares savings account?

    Lillard is a killer, he's worth every penny if the goal is to win ball games. If Damian was on a team that didn't fear the luxury tax such as Portland, he'd be lighting it up on a contending franchise instead of tanking for picks with team looking for bargain basement deals.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't give a shit about Jody's money.

    I want to see us win a ring and we have been treadmilling for years with Dame. That's not going to change.
     
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