OT Winning Time: The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by SlyPokerDog, Mar 7, 2022.

  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    116,518
    Likes Received:
    114,532
    Trophy Points:
    115
    Defending the Lakers is almost as bad as defending Putin, comrade.
     
    tykendo likes this.
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    90,279
    Likes Received:
    52,328
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Creating a Lakers related thread on a Blazers forum is almost as bad as defending Trump, comrade! :devilwink:
     
    tykendo, Phatguysrule and SlyPokerDog like this.
  3. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,479
    Likes Received:
    30,102
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    If we can't defend the Lakers, how will we know that HCP is alive?
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  4. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,457
    Likes Received:
    11,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes... but it's not the REAL story, is it?
     
  5. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2014
    Messages:
    14,008
    Likes Received:
    14,925
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's not and it is about people that we all saw in real life but it's a lot closer to the real story than Braveheart or a ton of other historical fiction films or series. This is not a documentary and Adam McKay makes that clear it's a piece of entertainment based on a moment in time. Every episode has a disclaimer at the end of it that says "Some of the names have been changed and some of the events and characters have been fictionalized, modified or composited for dramatic purposes."

    I realize a lot of you lived through this and I guess in a way (an unconscious infantile way) I did too but just because it doesn't match up with the reality that you experienced doesn't make it bad. It makes it a dramatization. This is the guy that made Anchorman about the same basic period of time. He likes the basics of the story and couldn't give a shit about the minutia. Maybe it's because I was an infant and little kid during this time period but this is comedic historical fiction, so I give it a fucking pass on accuracy in the interest of entertainment.
     
    Phatguysrule and SlyPokerDog like this.
  6. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

    Joined:
    May 2, 2021
    Messages:
    9,062
    Likes Received:
    7,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Currently the apartment in the Moda
    I loved that they held the picture and posted " Richard Pryor Positive Influence"
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  7. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

    Joined:
    May 2, 2021
    Messages:
    9,062
    Likes Received:
    7,410
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Currently the apartment in the Moda
    I'm having a great time watching this series. Don't care if it's all true or not. It's pretty much what i always believed anyway.
     
  8. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,479
    Likes Received:
    30,102
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    It'd be like watching a documentary on a President, let's say Trump or Nixon, and totally glossing over the stupid shit they both did, and making up shit about them, under the guise of it's a "piece of entertainment"
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  9. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,457
    Likes Received:
    11,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed. I've enjoyed it.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  10. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    17,613
    Likes Received:
    11,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But it's not a documentary, and not intended as one, so that comparison doesn't really hold.
     
  11. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,479
    Likes Received:
    30,102
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    Oh, I've enjoyed it. I just didn't see the reason why they faked such trivial facts when the ACTUAL facts wouldn't have changed the story at all.

    Like, did we really need to make Kareem out to be an asshole? Or that Jerry West is an angry ass clown, or that Chick Hearn was a jerk?

    You don't think if they made a story about the Blazers, and they did to the Schonz what they did to Hearn, that Blazer fans (including those who are defending this "non documentary") wouldn't have gone apologetic?
     
  12. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,457
    Likes Received:
    11,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've seen reports that Kareem was moody/surly. And I've seen video of Jerry West himself admit to being a miserable asshole at certain points, including the of breaking golf clubs.

    Everybody has character flaws. I don't hold them against anybody in a dramatization. I don't think Kareem or Jerry West's legacy has been tarnished. They were people. There is no question they made their share of mistakes. We all have.

    We don't know how accurate it is, but I've seen some evidence that it has been more accurate in some respects than these people are admitting.
     
  13. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,479
    Likes Received:
    30,102
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    No one is saying those things didn't happen, just that why put in things that are easy to figure out?

    People are acting like this is people being upset about Hoosiers (the movie), when it's clearly a made up story.

    Why not just be truthful about the events? It's also not like we're talking about events that no one is alive for or wasn't well documented.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  14. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,457
    Likes Received:
    11,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It seems to me like all "based on true events" dramatizations do this. They need to fill a certain amount of time with each episode being as entertaining as possible for the widest audience possible.

    Taking these liberties may be how they've been able to do that.

    I get what you're saying, but I also understand why they would do it.
     
  15. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    42,479
    Likes Received:
    30,102
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    singer songwriter
    Location:
    Washington
    Oh, I totally understand why. Same with the Queen movie a few years back, it made for a "better story"...but the story itself was fine as it was.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  16. tykendo

    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    6,346
    Likes Received:
    7,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I can't hardly wait to see if the Lakers win the title? Just kidding. It's been a good show to watch for the most part. Obviously there wasn't a huge budget for it. Costumes and hair look right for the most part. Should have CGI'd the arenas in. Those crowds look terrible, and the arenas don't look like the actual locations, at all. Plus they obviously left out too much stoinking action. The Magic Man was supposedly a top performer before the game as well.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  17. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,788
    Likes Received:
    11,429
    Trophy Points:
    113
  18. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,457
    Likes Received:
    11,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, I'll likely watch the second season at some point. I liked the first season.
     
  19. Stevenson

    Stevenson Old School

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2008
    Messages:
    4,040
    Likes Received:
    5,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Writer
    Location:
    PDX
    Great show. Jeanie Buss just said that John Reilly's portrayal of her dad was excellent btw.

    But I cant believe they ended it with the Laker loss to Boston in '84, and not Magic's Jr Jr Skyhook win in Boston in '85.
     
    Phatguysrule likes this.
  20. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    13,457
    Likes Received:
    11,437
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Maybe Netflix or Amazon will be smart enough to pick it up? Maybe even Paramount...
     
    Stevenson and SlyPokerDog like this.

Share This Page