<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 9 2008, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brook is alot like Jefferson...wtf???</div> Instead of a vague reply, explain how he's not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 8 2008, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If they take Mayo, do they admit that Randy Foye is a bust? They're both combo score-first guards. Al Jefferson is a good offensive post player, but he's horrible at defending the post. They also don't have anyone capable of defending the perimeter effectively, which leaves Minny with poor defense in almost every area. Corey Brewer was known as a versatile defender, but he hasn't lived up to his expectations yet. If he does improve, Minny will still need to pair him with another good defender. Which means they need either a : 1) True point guard with a good mid-range game, excellent lateral movement and quick feet on defense. or 2) A quick, long and physical post defender who is good at boxing out and chasing rebound and possibly has soft hands. This draft doesn't really have either of these. Taking Brook would be silly. He's a lot like Jefferson except with a lot less polish. Kevin Love had an excellent showing in the measurements camp and can fit the bill for being quick, versatile and tough.. but he's not a great defender. Taking Mayo would still leave them with horrible defense, even if by some magic Foye and Mayo could co-exist. Just a bad draft for Minny.</div> I disagree. Drafting Mayo doesn't in any way mean they think Foye is a bust. It just gives them versitility as to who can swing over and play the point. Not to mention adding Mayo will only improve the defense in the back court since Mayo is a much better defender than McCants and Telfair...so I'm not sure I follow your logic. I see no reason why Foye and Mayo couldn't co-exist, Foye is primarily a slasher while Mayo can score from anywhere and make his own shot. it's true we do need a true point, but after Rose there aren't any others, and definitly not another at #3. It's the smart thing to draft Mayo at #3 and wait for a Big Man to fall to one of thier picks (or trade thier two 2nd rounders to move up).
The only thing they have in common is they score in the post. Brook likes to score with length, power or he like to back you down and put up a 15 footer. he's also a very underrated defender, he might not wow you with his shot blocking numbers, but he has a knack of make players change their shots, do to pure length and power, sort of like Duncan does. Al jefferson is a player that like to beat you with a combination of power, and good post moves. Jefferson post moves are far superior than Lopez.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NattaNerNuttaMan @ Jun 8 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 8 2008, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If they take Mayo, do they admit that Randy Foye is a bust? They're both combo score-first guards. Al Jefferson is a good offensive post player, but he's horrible at defending the post. They also don't have anyone capable of defending the perimeter effectively, which leaves Minny with poor defense in almost every area. Corey Brewer was known as a versatile defender, but he hasn't lived up to his expectations yet. If he does improve, Minny will still need to pair him with another good defender. Which means they need either a : 1) True point guard with a good mid-range game, excellent lateral movement and quick feet on defense. or 2) A quick, long and physical post defender who is good at boxing out and chasing rebound and possibly has soft hands. This draft doesn't really have either of these. Taking Brook would be silly. He's a lot like Jefferson except with a lot less polish. Kevin Love had an excellent showing in the measurements camp and can fit the bill for being quick, versatile and tough.. but he's not a great defender. Taking Mayo would still leave them with horrible defense, even if by some magic Foye and Mayo could co-exist. Just a bad draft for Minny.</div> I disagree. Drafting Mayo doesn't in any way mean they think Foye is a bust. It just gives them versitility as to who can swing over and play the point. Not to mention adding Mayo will only improve the defense in the back court since Mayo is a much better defender than McCants and Telfair...so I'm not sure I follow your logic. I see no reason why Foye and Mayo couldn't co-exist, Foye is primarily a slasher while Mayo can score from anywhere and make his own shot. it's true we do need a true point, but after Rose there aren't any others, and definitly not another at #3. It's the smart thing to draft Mayo at #3 and wait for a Big Man to fall to one of thier picks (or trade thier two 2nd rounders to move up). </div> I agree, I don't think drafting Mayo means they think Foye is a bust. I think it probably means that both Telfair and McCants are gone. I still like both of them, so I think they can get something decent for them. Use them to get another pick to get a C?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 9 2008, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing they have in common is they score in the post. Brook likes to score with length, power or he like to back you down and put up a 15 footer. he's also a very underrated defender, he might not wow you with his shot blocking numbers, but he has a knack of make players change their shots, do to pure length and power, sort of like Duncan does. Al jefferson is a player that like to beat you with a combination of power, and good post moves. Jefferson post moves are far superior than Lopez.</div> Yeah.. because that's pretty much the only thing both of them can do well. Score in the post and rebound. Read your own description of each player. They sound very similar, except Lopez is not nearly as polished, as I've said <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I agree, I don't think drafting Mayo means they think Foye is a bust. I think it probably means that both Telfair and McCants are gone. I still like both of them, so I think they can get something decent for them. Use them to get another pick to get a C?</div>You can obviously pair anyone with anyone, but what's the point? Both are 6'4" guards who need the ball in their hands to be effective. Both are average defenders at best. They're similar players. You can pair anyone together, but having virtually the same player at PG and SG positions just makes no sense. They have more pressing needs right now.
Mayo is a much better play-maker than people give him credit for. Due to the lack consistent go-to scoring on USC he was often forced to score in the second half of games...not to mention the countless times his inside feeds were dropped or not converted by his inside players. Mayo will also prove to be a better defender than expected. I understand that was one of the knocks on him coming out of Highschool, but that hasn't been the case in college. He has also showed the desire and drive to work at improving those area and has the high ceiling to do so. Mayo is able to defend both guard slots. Getting Mayo will also improve on another issue which is even more severe in Minnesota....ticket sales. He will put butts in the seats and with the declining sales and support due to the loss of Garnett, that happens to be an often overlooked equation when it comes to drafting. What I'm trying to say (in a nutshell) is Mayo's talent is much to high and there's more servicable big men than PG's when Minnesota picks that they need to get Mayo #3 and either trade for a big man (ie; McCants and picks...we also have 3 1st rounder's next year) or even make a swing at getting Diop this off-season Minnesota's a young team and can afford to gel for a couple more years before it starts being an issue. Go for the best talent when you draft that high or it can come back to bite you in the butt. (hmmmm....Bowie=need, over MJ=Talent?...niiiiiice)
