<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Women (for the most part) may say that they believe that (1)the WNBA should not allow this and players should'nt want to do this because your a role-model for little girls, and they (the players) should be as positive as they can be, and (2) posing nude objectifies them.</div> (1) - I haven't seen the spread photos, but unless she posed in her Uniform naked or there was a specific clause in her contract, then the WNBA has absolutely no say in the matter, nor should they. (2) - That societal arguement is tired and old, IMO. Women have the right to do what they wish with thier bodies and young girls need to learn that they have the right to determine whats best for them. Decisions like this exemplify that little girls can do/become whatever they dream of. IMO, that is a positive message.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post"> (1) - I haven't seen the spread photos, but unless she posed in her Uniform naked or there was a specific clause in her contract, then the WNBA has absolutely no say in the matter, nor should they.</div> Then by your argument, she shouldn't be affiliated with the team at all. Would you not think that, just because she's not wearing a jersey, that she's not recognizable? Without her status, she's just another sucka. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">(2) - That societal arguement is tired and old, IMO. Women have the right to do what they wish with thier bodies and young girls need to learn that they have the right to determine whats best for them. Decisions like this exemplify that little girls can do/become whatever they dream of. IMO, that is a positive message. </div> I didn't say the action is demeaning, or the argument is correct. I just said that this will be the argument to come. Right or wrong.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Then by your argument, she shouldn't be affiliated with the team at all. Would you not think that, just because she's not wearing a jersey, that she's not recognizable? Without her status, she's just another sucka.</div> That's not what I meant at all. My point is, that from a technical standpoint, the WNBA should have no say in this unless she's broken a specific rule of the organization. The mag can say "WNBA Star ........." but as long as she's not making an official representation on thier behalf, then they can't say jack. It's like Baseball players who do card promotions for Cereals and stuff. Most of the time, they don't wear thier official uniform, because they don't have permission to so, because people would draw a relationship of consent to the product by the MLB. BTW: there are plenty of "sucka's" out there who have made themselves recognizable to the world through this avenue and have never had any relationship to sports like this woman does. They don't put ugly women in those magazines (for good or bad), so she had to have something else going for her besides her WNBA celebrity.
I see things differently from everybody here. What's the point of going nude?? Are you trying to draw attention to yourself, negative publicity, or are you simply trying to promote the WNBA for it's horrible ratings in order to draw more fan support? Maybe some members here think I'm weird and that I'm supposedly "not normal", (and yes I was slammed here months ago for not looking at porn,) BUT I would actually think a woman would have more respect and dignity in themselves rather than exposing their naked bodies to the nation. It just makes me sick that there's actually people out there that are willing to portray themselves in that kind of fashion without taking a step back realizing if it's worth it or not. Just my two cents.
I hear what you're saying Emo and I'm sure you're not alone in your thoughts. However, I would have to try to best answer those points in the following manner: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What's the point of going nude??</div> Nudity is natural. Also, whether they want to admit it or not, there's probably not a day that goes by that most people don't picture someone they know or see naked. Some people get a thrill out of performing the "taboo". <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">(and yes I was slammed here months ago for not looking at porn,)</div> All I can say is: <u>To hell with those that came down on you.</u>. It's your right to choose to view what you want to view. Just because alot of people look at porn, doesn't mean it's everyones cup o' tea. To each thier own. :thumbsup:
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW: there are plenty of "sucka's" out there who have made themselves recognizable to the world through this avenue and have never had any relationship to sports like this woman does. They don't put ugly women in those magazines (for good or bad), so she had to have something else going for her besides her WNBA celebrity.</div> And that's what I'm saying. If she were not a player, she'd be known as "that blonde girl in the mag". She could go in for a promotion after a person just viewed the magazine, and a respectable amount would'nt place her face initially. And to the others, they would just picture her bare flesh as she stood there. She would try to introduce herself, and the other person would be like "Lauren Jacksss ( )yeah that's great".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">Also, whether they want to admit it or not, there's probably not a day that goes by that most people don't picture someone they know or see naked. </div> Nudity is natural, and there are alot of days that I think of punching my boss in the mouth, but somethings things should stay private. Personally, I don't have a problem with her doing it. I hope more do. But EMO does have a point in why it's done. Some people just do it to do it. Some find it exciting. Some do it out of neccessity. I really hate to bring this up again, but it's like the Super Bowl incident. I thought it was preposterous because there was no reasoning behind it. There didn't seem to be any positive gain from it. It just gave censorship another footstep to taking the spontanaity out of live viewing.
^Yup the FCC is just straight cracking down on shows now. Noo!!!!!!!!! Anyways, looking at the celebs pose for playboy really isn't a big deal. Looking at it, I don't think of nothing because the way it's done it's just like looking at a woman in her bathing suit. See thru bathing suit but none the less, it's nothing really to gock over. Most of celebs don't show everything mean down below. They keep that private. To me playboy is the only way to go if you want to do something tasteful. It's not like she did Penthouse or something. They show everything.
If she wants to pose nude, sure it's her business and her choice. But why would you want the whole world knowing what your naked body looks like? You gotta have some respect for yourself and for your body. I mean they're called "private parts" for a reason. I myself find it degrading. When men view the magazine she's just looked at as a sex symbol, nothing more. It's cool to be comfortable with your body, but you gotta have some limits. Those are just my views on the matter.
Damn she's pretty hot. here's what the cover of the magazine looks like from the seattle times (no nudity, but shows skin) http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2001958663.jpg
The nude pictorial of Olympians in B&W is a very prestigious honour, to label it pornography and so forth is incredibly narrow-minded... It's not as if the males and females who participate lie on a bed and spread their legs, it's done in an entirely tasteful and artistic manner - a celebration of the athlete, if you will.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RiverspoonJones:</div><div class="quote_post">The nude pictorial of Olympians in B&W is a very prestigious honour, to label it pornography and so forth is incredibly narrow-minded... It's not as if the males and females who participate lie on a bed and spread their legs, it's done in an entirely tasteful and artistic manner - a celebration of the athlete, if you will.</div>Yeah, there's a difference between tasteful nudity and tasteless nudity. Otherwise, the statue of David and painting of "Venus Rising" or "Birth of Venus" or whatever you callit by Boticelli would all be considered raunch. The black and white photos are just another form of artistic expression done by technology and not done by a brush or sculpting tools. BTW Lauren looks hot. Amazing what makeup can do.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sactown_dyme:</div><div class="quote_post">If she wants to pose nude, sure it's her business and her choice. But why would you want the whole world knowing what your naked body looks like? You gotta have some respect for yourself and for your body. I mean they're called "private parts" for a reason. I myself find it degrading. When men view the magazine she's just looked at as a sex symbol, nothing more. It's cool to be comfortable with your body, but you gotta have some limits. Those are just my views on the matter.</div> If she wanted to pose nude,that's on her.i agree..Personaly if she were my GF/Wife,My Sister,than i know for sure I'd have a problem with it...She wants's the attention definetly,and she will get it,but i agree with you on limitations,cause if i were a woman,i wouldn't do that myself. She's very nice looking,and hey people are going to look at her,cause they want to,but hey it doesn't effect me one way or the other,as i say whatever flows your boat,is fine with me ..as long as it doesn't effect me
Damn, nice rack LINK On a serious note, I have no problem with this. As someone else mentioned, if it was my GF, wife, daughther, I would have a problem. But this is her personal choice. Reality is that sex sells, and any publicity is good publicity. To be honest, I never even heard of her until now...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn, nice rack LINK On a serious note, I have no problem with this. As someone else mentioned, if it was my GF, wife, daughther, I would have a problem. But this is her personal choice. Reality is that sex sells, and any publicity is good publicity. To be honest, I never even heard of her until now...</div> Yes she is nice looking and Looks good,but i agree with you...her choice..her decison..her life I on the other hand say it's ok,but there's always a price in doing things...if i were a woman,i'd never do anything like that personally,but hey like i said it;s not my life,and she's an adult and it's her choice!
Can someone maybe please post some photos of her other than her playing basketball so most of us can see what the big fuss is about?
I doubt very much that will happen, unless pics can be found that don't violate site rules. As it stands, this isn't a porn site,(and rightly so) so, I wouldn't get your hopes up to see any pics here.
