Wojnarowski: Sources: Bulls VP Paxson shoved Del Negro

Sorry, but it isn't an opinion. And Doc was saying that to be nice to Vinny.

 

So you made up the part about KC holding the story?

 

Rose had a 13 PER in the playoffs last year. Gordon had a 15.8 PER and was injured the last couple games. Gordon had the better net +/- and better defensive PER as well.

 

Of course, Pax should be fired. His only strength was his championship image....long gone now.

 

OMG

I'm really glad i stayed up and decided to get online again tonight. Just reading that is so fucking worth it! Will the insanity never end?

 

An outside observer provides a solid assessment!

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The juicy bit about Vinny and Tyrus about to duke it out has been vanished from that article. Guess the Trib isn't done holding back on stories despite getting a dose of national embarrassment tonight. Sheesh.

 

As a final note

I saw a movie about this once. It starts out like this
[video=youtube;QwfbxtIMQrM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwfbxtIMQrM[/video]

and ends up like this

[video=youtube;BNzitev3r9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNzitev3r9Q[/video]

But seriously, this is an isolated incident? I seem to recall Pax being fined for bursting into the refs lockers and accosting them a few years back. And Pax stepping away from contract negotiations because it was too emotional. And Pax trying to quit and the Bulls "promoting" Gar Forman to the position of designated media flak monkey to take the stress off Paxson. And I seem to remember a several months long coaching odyssey of growth and discovery, complete with tears and handholding with Doug Collins.

In short, this is not an isolated incident. This is the status fucking quo. If you like the guy, Mr. Reinsdorf, you'll put him out of his misery. Retire him. Take him out back and put him down. Send him off to Cambodia to train the natives. Something! Shit.

Is there some reason that the Tribune hires people that write such stupid things in their paper. So having no faith in him whatsoever to keep a level head is NOT, I repeat, NOT a cause to remove a man from a position of control in a multi-million dollar business.

Mmmkay.

 

Hmm... formatting is screwy

 

FAs are going to want to know who their coach is and want to be part of a stable organization. This ain't helping at all.

How to fix it would be a good thread.

 

Craig Sager mentioned that KC was holding the story back. I definitely did not make that one up.

 

Rose averaged 20/6/6 on 49%. BG averaged 24/3/3 on 39% shooting in fewer minutes per game. Please don't pick the one stat is biased towards scoring to try and say that BG had a better series. Neither played good defense, Ray Allen lit BG up and Rondo averaged almost a triple double. But I'd take Rose's numbers over BG's any day.

 

The biggest reason that Rose's PER is bad is that he had 35 TOs in the series. Comparatively, Gordon had 8.

The numbers show Bulls played better with Rose on the bench. Sorry. He did have that nice block.

 

Hinrich had a 17.1 PER so that makes him the best player, right? Sorry, if you get subbed out at the end of games for defense, that takes you out of the running for best player on the team. And that also explains some of BG's better defensive numbers.

 

The plot thickens: espn is reporting that Vinny actually started it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5086856

Also makes it look a lot more like Vinny was trying to get his version of the story out there first by leaking it at least twice.

Or maybe more spin. Who knows at this point. Either way, bye bye Vinny.

 

Alternate theory: Gar is leaking all of this to get both Pax and Vinny fired... He's the guy seemingly giving out all of the details and the logical third guy in the room.

 

Well, like I said in that other post, it really seems to me that Gar is the one responsible for bringing this into the open by needlessly lying about what happened in the Nets game. By saying there wasn't a minute limit on Noah (even though he conceded he called up Paxson and got permission to break the non-existent minute limit) he started the process.

I can't believe he's that smart though. Of course, sometimes it's not a matter of smarts and logic. Sometimes it's just a matter of chutzpah.

I think the spin that Vinny started it, and also fought Forman earlier in the year, is pretty ludicrous. This team seemed to be positively aching to fire the guy, and they don’t do it when he twice accosts his bosses? That’s threatening to break my bullshit detector.

 

I don't see why you think Forman lied about what happened in the nets game, but I don't think they handled well at all. If nothing else, the Vinny is the bad guy respin leads me to believe that Paxson isn't going anywhere. Why waste the time with the he said Vinny said if Paxson is just going to leave quietly. But the reports that Vinny spent time trying to get people to corroborate his story after the incident leads me to believe that there is more to the story about him getting in other altercations. If he was just the bumbling nice guy bad coach, he'd be getting his money next year. Reinsdorf paid Skiles for a year and a half even after Skiles basically quit. So it sounds like they independent investigative thing might be more along the lines of finding grounds to fire Vinny and not pay him.

 

Speaking of defense, you already admitted that Rondo destroyed Rose most of that series and the stats show it. Rose (85%) and Gordon (82%) played almost the same number of minutes and Hinrich (57%) played a lot fewer. Gordon's net +/- and net PER is also better than Hinrich which is better than Rose's.

I don't think either of us are going to change our mind so I'm just going to have to go with the opposing coach's declaration that Gordon was our best player last year.