Would Ben Simmons be the last piece of our puzzle?

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I don't get the reason for your snarky comments. You're choosing to pick one point from what I said but ignoring everything else.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    I would look at acquiring Simmons if a CJ/youth/picks package could but the knee injury is a major concern to me. I'd need to see him 100% healthy to finish the playoffs or healthy next season to consider such a move.

    Yes Simmons lack of shooting is a concern but if healthy the positive potential of everything else he does outweigh that downside.
     
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    No, I adressed litteraly all of your nonsense on the previous page.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    There is a reason why many considered Philly a title contender. I think people are not realizing how good this guy is just because he can't shoot. For now. But he still is making field goals at a ridiculous 58% clip. And he is an elite playmaker and defender and is a legit 6'10. Watching Trent and CJ try to guard the likes of Tatum and Porter the last few games have just reinforced how small we are at the wing. We don't have a longterm solution at that position either, even with Nas miraculously having a jump.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yeah a stud big wing like Simmons would be awesome to add.

    If Neil can't do that, he at least needs a big defensive wing as we previously had in Aminu/Harkless. I'm fine moving on from them as a starting duo, but we need someone able to play 20minutes defense against the big elite wings in the league.
     
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    how is what i said "nonsense" but you can openly compare simmons to evan freaking turner?
     
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    Trying to imagine the perfect supporting cast for Simmons. They should all be shooters, and the advantage of Simmons is that you can have short shooters who aren't PGs on your team - you know, like CJ. Also you can have a big who likes to stand outside and shoot - Brook Lopez or Porzingis. And all of them should be low usage because Simmons is useless on offense if he isn't controlling it. He just doesn't fit with our guys very well, except if you swap him for Dame, and no Blazer fan would go for that.

    I know the PERFECT Simmons trade...
     
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    Sure: Evan Turner has cooler hair than Ben Simmons. Evan Turner has had more trucks in his swimming pool that Ben Simmons.
     
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    He said COMPARE not CONTRAST.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    A Giannis centric Milwaukee type offense is the current template, but I think even they will struggle later in the playoffs when they have to rely on the likes of Eric Bledsoe creating shot opportunities. While Middleton is good, he's not much more than a scorer who could get easily taken out with extra defensive attention.

    I think we are all overthinking this fit with Simmons. Just looking through basketball reference comps, it's crazy how similar Simmons' numbers look like Magic's. Putting a guy like that next to Dame in multiple roles on the offense is unique and nearly impossible to guard, especially with Nurk's high post passing ability and a good shooting SG next to them.
     
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    [Broken record] The Sixers are not going to give us Simmons for anyone BUT Dame, so it's pointless imagining them next to each other.
     
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    Once again, I addressed all your nonsense, and will do so again. I'm comparing the hole they have in their game, which will lead to the same known problems we've seen in the past.

    Now you:
    Why do you think we need to add Simmons at the 'dunker spot' and how the hell did you come up which such a position?
     
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    It would make about as much sense to imagine a much better fit, in PG.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    This, you trade for Simmons if you have the roster to maximize his skillset, you don't trade for him hoping that he learns to shoot in 2-3 years, because you will end up wasting those 2-3 years while he tries to learn how to go 33% from 3 on 3 attempts per game.
     
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    you never know. Let’s see how they go out this year


    I’d love to get Simmons tho, I don’t think enough people watch him on here
     
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    This makes me think of getting a perhaps a different big guard like Lonzo Ball who HAS increased his 3 pt shooting a lot to almost 38% this yr, defends well at 6'6 and is a great passer as well.
     
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    Again with snark. I honestly don't get it. Literally nothing I commented on warrants this kinda response. We don't really do this kinda shit in this forum. Not anymore, anyway.

    And not sure why you're hanging on to that dunker thing. That's what Moe should have done more of, as in cutting on the weakside while our big was on the short roll. We got a few buckets last night off that same action. Dwyane Wade was so impactful after Lebron came to Miami by embracing cutting and moving off the ball. Not sure why Simmons couldn't assume a similar role, in addition to creating for others.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Right, this injury might bring his value down a bit.
     
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    Ben Simmons is just a taller Evan Turner
     
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    I'm really not sure is Simmons would be an optimal fit at SF. I think he would probably be a better fit at SF than CJ is at SG, especially if Trent keeps up his development. That could make CJ expendable for a better fit

    But Simmons has an even bigger contract than CJ...34M/year for the next 5 years. Is Simmons worth that much and would he change Portland's trajectory that much?

    if the answer to those questions is yes, then Portland would have to pay a lot more than CJ

    by the way, the Simmons/Evan Turner comparison is kind of loopy
     

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