Would you go all-in on the playoffs?

This is still a sub .500 team with a negative points differential. How "developed" are they really? I'll grant them that they've had a good week, but the issue I (and many others I think?) have with the "let it bake" philosophy with this current roster is what is this team's ceiling and is there really enough assets to go out and make an impact trade that bumps this team up from the muddy middle that it seems like they might be trending toward?

 

HE DUPLICATES TOO MANY OF THE TRAITS DAMIAN ALREADY POSSESSES AND THERE'S ONLY ONE BALL.

 

We already knew Dame/CJ could score - development would be getting the other guys more involved in the offense.
I said you misrepresented "my" side of the debate, not yourself.

 

Thats not even relevant to the crap you're saying.

 

The CJ/Dame "duplication" is a good thing.

 

Longterm I don't believe you can get maximum production out of these two guys if they are playing a majority of their time together. Both of them seem to be at their best when they are dominating the ball and neither really seems comfortable off the ball. How is that not relevant?

 

It really isn't.

 

There is no such thing as getting "maximum production" only putting together the best team possible. Iggy, Barnes, and Bogut would be performing a lot better on other teams, but they're a big part of the reason that Golden State is so good. How are they not comfortable off the ball? Would you rather have no other ball handler than Dame so that he can be "comfortable" getting raped by triple teams because there's no one else to relieve the pressure? Just so CJ could be at his best on a different team?

 

Would you go all-in on the playoffs?

I did in TBPups playoff thread, so yes I would in this one as well.

 

I think bringing CJ off the bench is a great idea...his scoring will leap and his defense will be more effective...we need to involve guys like Crabbe, Aminu and Leonard more in the offense...I still want Crabbe starting at the 2..CJ would own the 6man role every game..he'd probably still play the same minutes and finish most games with Dame..I just think our 1st half cushion would improve splitting them up early in games

 

Absolutely not! This team is too far away from being a contender to go 'all in'. They might marginally help themselves but likely at the cost of young assets and it wouldn't do anything to help them win a series.

 

Where the hell did I say that?

 

You implied it. Their duplication is a bad thing right? Plus you said that they can't be maximized playing together.

 

If our two best players are basically ball dominant guards who are at their best getting and creating their own shot (and are both liabilities on defense) then you automatically cancel out one or the other's contributions to a certain degree because neither guy is completely doing what they do best.

Let's pretend Wesley Matthews never got hurt and was 3 years younger. He's basically Damian's ideal running mate - a 3 and D guy who is at his absolute best off the ball and who covers up some of the defensive deficiencies of his partner in the backcourt. It's the same reason Mason Plumlee and Ed Davis aren't a great pairing in the front-court; spacing becomes a problem, neither guy plays with his back to the basket and the team concepts on offense get all gummed up.

I don't want to get rid of CJ, I want his production to be maximized because I think that helps the team in the long run. And to that end I don't think he should be starting with Damian - it's the Monta Ellis/Stephen Curry problem that Golden State had (and fixed).

 

No where did it say go all in on a contender. And you guys act like the good player we get won't be here for the coming years. You guys act like ever situation will be Afflalo 2.0

If hypothetical player is under team control for more than this year, we could give up young talent.

If it's a one year rental then no.

 

I support a constant attempt to win. It really is that simple.

 

The perfect fit next to Dame depends on the rest of the team. With Aminu/Vonleh/Plumlee, McCollum is a way better fit next to Lillard then Matthews.

 

I would not. Give Olshey another late lottery pick (or better) and then try for more wins.

I like the stealth tanking we are doing. Keep giving Noah starts and playing CJ\Dame together. Next year start Crabbe and the PF that shows the most promise.

 

I don't think we ever were stealth tanking, just taking our bruises. I think the team will come out and play well on this 7 game home stand, and show that they mean business. I do hope Vonleh keeps starting, and starts to get more minutes for defensive purposes.I wonder how a lineup of Dame, CJ, Crabbe, Aminu, Vonleh would do. I like the starting lineup, I don't think that should change. But you don't see those 5 guys on the court together.