<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. And if you say yes, there's something seriously wrong with you.</div> Is it really that fucked up? People are dying all the time. What is one more person off this over populated Earth? You could be killing Osama Bin Laden or George W. Bush. Will it really matter? We all die eventually anyhow. People die all the time, right this moment someone just died in a car accident.........................someone just died of gun shot wounds. Are you sure you wouldn't press the button? </div> You are making the decision to kill this person. Taking a life isn't "fucked up?" You can't put a price on life, no matter if it's $10 mil or $100 mil. And yes, I'm positive I wouldn't push the button. </div> I'm not saying whether it is fucked up or not. But apparently there is a price on life....$10 million. 11 more people died since my last post at least. </div> Sure. Death is a part of life (is that an oxymoron?). But just because it is doesn't make killing someone just.
But what if you're an evangelical? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. -- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5 There is a good chance you are doing the work of God, as the odds are you are killing a non-Christian. Would you evangelicals do this if the odds are that you are following the Bible and killing perhaps a Muslim or Hindu?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But what if you're an evangelical? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. -- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5 There is a good chance you are doing the work of God, as the odds are you are killing a non-Christian. Would you evangelicals do this if the odds are that you are following the Bible and killing perhaps a Muslim or Hindu?</div> I hate you. And so does Umair. How have Muslims transgressed the covenant? If anything, they've stayed closer to it than Christians.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But what if you're an evangelical? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. -- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5 There is a good chance you are doing the work of God, as the odds are you are killing a non-Christian. Would you evangelicals do this if the odds are that you are following the Bible and killing perhaps a Muslim or Hindu?</div> Not a valid point. You're doing it for the money in this case, not because of your religion. Since we're going all biblical here: "Living for this world and its pleasures is a serious mistake. To gain the whole world and lose one's soul is foolish" - Luke 9:25 I, for one, choose not to be foolish.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Jun 11 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But what if you're an evangelical? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. -- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5 There is a good chance you are doing the work of God, as the odds are you are killing a non-Christian. Would you evangelicals do this if the odds are that you are following the Bible and killing perhaps a Muslim or Hindu?</div> I hate you. And so does Umair. How have Muslims transgressed the covenant? If anything, they've stayed closer to it than Christians. </div> I would agree that the true Muslims are closer to the covenant than the American evangelicals. If you are a Muslim, there is a good chance you are killing a Christian, who is part of a country threatening your religion, so you would get 10 million, and possibly help in the Jihad. If your not religious, you are just getting $10,000,000, and there is a infinitesimal chance that you will know the person you are killing, so it won't effect you. Look at Brian trying to rationalize situations in which he would take the $10 million. Are you telling me Brian you aren't going to take it, when your coming up with reasons and situations where you would take it? Is everyone else serious that they wouldn't take the $10,000,000, or are you just trying to act righteous? What if you took that $10,000,0000 and used it to pay for the operations of those too poor to pay for it, and saved 1,000 lives?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. And if you say yes, there's something seriously wrong with you.</div> Is it really that fucked up? People are dying all the time. What is one more person off this over populated Earth? You could be killing Osama Bin Laden or George W. Bush. Will it really matter? We all die eventually anyhow. People die all the time, right this moment someone just died in a car accident.........................someone just died of gun shot wounds. Are you sure you wouldn't press the button? </div> You are making the decision to kill this person. Taking a life isn't "fucked up?" You can't put a price on life, no matter if it's $10 mil or $100 mil. And yes, I'm positive I wouldn't push the button. </div> I'm not saying whether it is fucked up or not. But apparently there is a price on life....$10 million. 11 more people died since my last post at least. </div> Sure. Death is a part of life (is that an oxymoron?). But just because it is doesn't make killing someone just. </div> Who are you to say what is just though? Morality is a subjective concept that's dictated by a person's upbringing, not a universal truth. Anyway, don't act so shocked that people would push the button, because I'm sure that a large percentage, maybe even a majority, of our nation who would push the button. Just look at all of our soldiers killing people in Iraq for the paycheck.
I don't get it. Random people I don't know die all the time. What connects my "button push" with this person's death?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jun 11 2008, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't get it. Random people I don't know die all the time. What connects my "button push" with this person's death?</div> You push a button and randomly some person dies because of it. It's supernatural.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 11 2008, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. And if you say yes, there's something seriously wrong with you.</div> Is it really that fucked up? People are dying all the time. What is one more person off this over populated Earth? You could be killing Osama Bin Laden or George W. Bush. Will it really matter? We all die eventually anyhow. People die all the time, right this moment someone just died in a car accident.........................someone just died of gun shot wounds. Are you sure you wouldn't press the button? </div> You are making the decision to kill this person. Taking a life isn't "fucked up?" You can't put a price on life, no matter if it's $10 mil or $100 mil. And yes, I'm positive I wouldn't push the button. </div> I'm not saying whether it is fucked up or not. But apparently there is a price on life....$10 million. 11 more people died since my last post at least. </div> Sure. Death is a part of life (is that an oxymoron?). But just because it is doesn't make killing someone just. </div> Who are you to say what is just though? Morality is a subjective concept that's dictated by a person's upbringing, not a universal truth. Anyway, don't act so shocked that people would push the button, because I'm sure that a large percentage, maybe even a majority, of our nation who would push the button. Just look at all of our soldiers killing people in Iraq for the paycheck. </div> Yes. Morality is subjective. But I would think that the majority of people would agree that taking someone's life for no reason at all is wrong, regardless of how they were raised or what they believe in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Jun 11 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not a valid reason.</div> According to your morals. I think it's a perfectly valid reason to kill a stranger.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 11 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AEM @ Jun 11 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's not a valid reason.</div> According to your morals. </div> Without getting into why moral relativism is a bullshit concept, if you believe in the Judeo-Christian/Muslim theology, killing someone for money, absent a qualifying factor, is WRONG, period.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 11 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Even people that do it will probably have annoying second thoughts, it's self-torture I think.</div> That's my biggest problem. I'd feel horrible, especially if I never got to know who I killed. Maybe I killed the next big terrorist. Maybe I killed the person who develops a cure for cancer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look at Brian trying to rationalize situations in which he would take the $10 million. Are you telling me Brian you aren't going to take it, when your coming up with reasons and situations where you would take it?</div> I never said I would take it. I said if I needed the money, then I'd think about it. I'm living comfortably now, so there's no need for me to kill anyone. And for the record, the Spreewell reference was just a joke.
I wouldn't push a button, though. I'd make it more fun. I'd hunt for the person, or kill him hitman style. Button pushing is lame.
