<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 12 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would not kidding, maybe it'll be one of you bastards <span style="color:#ffffff">ans types that knowing, he pushing someone buttons**</span></div> But then who would you shake your head at, or make listen to Aaliyah videos?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I still don't understand this. The only connection between my button push and this person's death is someone telling me about the causation? Seems kind of flimsy. I mean, somebody dies every second. Someone telling me I caused it doesn't really have much of an effect - especially if it's all theoretical. I don't even find out who this person is?</div> It's some supernatural situation. All you need to know is that button will assuredly cause someone to die.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jun 12 2008, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I still don't understand this. The only connection between my button push and this person's death is someone telling me about the causation? Seems kind of flimsy. I mean, somebody dies every second. Someone telling me I caused it doesn't really have much of an effect - especially if it's all theoretical. I don't even find out who this person is?</div> It's some supernatural situation. All you need to know is that button will assuredly cause someone to die. </div> To me, that means nothing. Hundreds of people will die at exactly the same time. One more or less doesn't make any difference. I view this as a pointless $10,000,000 giveaway.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 11 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. And if you say yes, there's something seriously wrong with you.</div> Is it really that fucked up? People are dying all the time. What is one more person off this over populated Earth? You could be killing Osama Bin Laden or George W. Bush. Will it really matter? We all die eventually anyhow. People die all the time, right this moment someone just died in a car accident.........................someone just died of gun shot wounds. Are you sure you wouldn't press the button? </div> You are making the decision to kill this person. Taking a life isn't "fucked up?" You can't put a price on life, no matter if it's $10 mil or $100 mil. And yes, I'm positive I wouldn't push the button. </div> I'm not saying whether it is fucked up or not. But apparently there is a price on life....$10 million. 11 more people died since my last post at least. </div> Sure. Death is a part of life (is that an oxymoron?). But just because it is doesn't make killing someone just. </div> Who are you to say what is just though? Morality is a subjective concept that's dictated by a person's upbringing, not a universal truth. Anyway, don't act so shocked that people would push the button, because I'm sure that a large percentage, maybe even a majority, of our nation who would push the button. Just look at all of our soldiers killing people in Iraq for the paycheck. </div> Dude, I'm a soldier in Iraq...I don't do it for the paycheck. It's not that we kill for the money, we do it as our duty. The pay just happens. But I'm sure their are some sickos who did join just for the violence...but not as many as you'd think. Alot of us don't even want to be hear and would rather be home with our families, let alone kill people. The extra money we get in no way is worth what we pay in lives or time away from loved ones. I'm currently serving my 3rd deployment and I'm not running around wanting to kill for a paycheck.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NattaNerNuttaMan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 11 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. And if you say yes, there's something seriously wrong with you.</div> Is it really that fucked up? People are dying all the time. What is one more person off this over populated Earth? You could be killing Osama Bin Laden or George W. Bush. Will it really matter? We all die eventually anyhow. People die all the time, right this moment someone just died in a car accident.........................someone just died of gun shot wounds. Are you sure you wouldn't press the button? </div> You are making the decision to kill this person. Taking a life isn't "fucked up?" You can't put a price on life, no matter if it's $10 mil or $100 mil. And yes, I'm positive I wouldn't push the button. </div> I'm not saying whether it is fucked up or not. But apparently there is a price on life....$10 million. 11 more people died since my last post at least. </div> Sure. Death is a part of life (is that an oxymoron?). But just because it is doesn't make killing someone just. </div> Who are you to say what is just though? Morality is a subjective concept that's dictated by a person's upbringing, not a universal truth. Anyway, don't act so shocked that people would push the button, because I'm sure that a large percentage, maybe even a majority, of our nation who would push the button. Just look at all of our soldiers killing people in Iraq for the paycheck. </div> Dude, I'm a soldier in Iraq...I don't do it for the paycheck. It's not that we kill for the money, we do it as our duty. The pay just happens. But I'm sure their are some sickos who did join just for the violence...but not as many as you'd think. Alot of us don't even want to be hear and would rather be home with our families, let alone kill people. The extra money we get in no way is worth what we pay in lives or time away from loved ones. I'm currently serving my 3rd deployment and I'm not running around wanting to kill for a paycheck. </div> Yeah, everyone's different, but I know a lot of my boys from back home whose lives weren't going in the right direction, who needed the money, joined the army to have some money and structure. I'm sure you know people from all ends of the spectrum, from the admirable to those who do it for the job of it, like my boys from back home.
Your boys still have an idea of who they're killing. Almost all try not to put innocent people's lives in danger, and have some standards.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 12 2008, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NattaNerNuttaMan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 11 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. And if you say yes, there's something seriously wrong with you.</div> Is it really that fucked up? People are dying all the time. What is one more person off this over populated Earth? You could be killing Osama Bin Laden or George W. Bush. Will it really matter? We all die eventually anyhow. People die all the time, right this moment someone just died in a car accident.........................someone just died of gun shot wounds. Are you sure you wouldn't press the button? </div> You are making the decision to kill this person. Taking a life isn't "fucked up?" You can't put a price on life, no matter if it's $10 mil or $100 mil. And yes, I'm positive I wouldn't push the button. </div> I'm not saying whether it is fucked up or not. But apparently there is a price on life....$10 million. 11 more people died since my last post at least. </div> Sure. Death is a part of life (is that an oxymoron?). But just because it is doesn't make killing someone just. </div> Who are you to say what is just though? Morality is a subjective concept that's dictated by a person's upbringing, not a universal truth. Anyway, don't act so shocked that people would push the button, because I'm sure that a large percentage, maybe even a majority, of our nation who would push the button. Just look at all of our soldiers killing people in Iraq for the paycheck. </div> Dude, I'm a soldier in Iraq...I don't do it for the paycheck. It's not that we kill for the money, we do it as our duty. The pay just happens. But I'm sure their are some sickos who did join just for the violence...but not as many as you'd think. Alot of us don't even want to be hear and would rather be home with our families, let alone kill people. The extra money we get in no way is worth what we pay in lives or time away from loved ones. I'm currently serving my 3rd deployment and I'm not running around wanting to kill for a paycheck. </div> Yeah, everyone's different, but I know a lot of my boys from back home whose lives weren't going in the right direction, who needed the money, joined the army to have some money and structure. I'm sure you know people from all ends of the spectrum, from the admirable to those who do it for the job of it, like my boys from back home. </div> Now I'm with you on that, saying that alot of people down and out joining for 3 hots and a cot. It just that the way you put it, said we were killing for the money in Iraq. Hell, were not even supposed to fire unless fired upon or engaged. So to say were getting paid to kill is a lil off. It one thing to say they joined for the money...it's another to say their killing for the money
On the basis that there is no heaven or hell, and that all religion is incorrect (opinion), I wtill wouldn't do it because I have morals.
What if I press it, and the guy next to me dies? Would I still get my money? Or why dont I just kick that guys ass and steal his money for being a sicko?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 12 2008, 04:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>On the basis that there is no heaven or hell, and that all religion is incorrect (opinion), I wtill wouldn't do it because I have morals.</div> Morals without religious beliefs?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 12 2008, 06:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, you can have morals without being religious</div> So you don't believe in an afterlife, therefore what you do on earth doesn't matter for anything but the present, so why do you care about things such as murder? If it's someone you don't know, and you won't see any repercussions from it, why should you care?
I would do it, depending on the person. If it was some innocent person, who was defenseless, and had done nothing wrong, I wouldn't, but if it was some person who had done bad things in the past, and was just a prick in general, then I wouldn't feel so bad about it.
But that's where the dilemma lies. This is completly random, you don't get to choose who you want to die, nor do you know if the person that dies is a good person or not. Anyone at all
my first reaction is yeah, do it, ppl die such is life.. but I know the guilt associated with the act would eat away and you'd never enjoy the money, so i don't think any amount of money is worth it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jun 11 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not going to lie, I would think about it pretty damn hard. Are there any legal consequences? If not, I'm killing someone.</div> 10 Million dollars buys a pretty damn good legal team. I'm pushing the button. Asking if I were to push it a 2nd time could I get another 10 Million. -Petey
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 12 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 12 2008, 06:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, you can have morals without being religious</div> So you don't believe in an afterlife, therefore what you do on earth doesn't matter for anything but the present, so why do you care about things such as murder? If it's someone you don't know, and you won't see any repercussions from it, why should you care? </div> I still have the feeling of right and wrong, and $10m is not a good reason to end someone's life. Also, I want to respect the person I am, and I don't respect murderers. They are cold-hearted evil beings who care of nothing but themselves. You don't have to be religious to have morals, just lots of narrow-minded religious people think you do.
People have killed people, over really silly things. Someone said how do you know if this person finds the cure for cancer, well the same could be argued that all the aborted babies could have been the one to cure it. One thing a person could do is, though they kill 1 person, with the 10 mill, they could put 1 mill aside to send food and medical resources to a 3rd world country and a thousand lives that would otherwise die from malnutrition and disease.
