Would you trade Aldridge for Harden + Ibaka + Perkins?

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Would you do this trade?

  1. Yes, I would do that, which is a sign of how disgusted this year has made me

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  2. Are you completely insane? You don't rebuild by trading your one good player!!!!!!

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  1. MickZagger

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    He's 22 flippin years old!!! He would be a senior in college this year.
     
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    Trading an All-Star/All-NBA player who is entering his prime for a 6th man who has had one 20+ PER year is stupid.

    Unbelievable!
     
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    He's a role player who never even gets double-teamed.

    Dumbest fans in America - those trading LMA for Harden straight up.
     
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    20 PER is not a role player.
     
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    Ok, also, sorry, I just read through(you know, readers are leaders and all that stupid shit you spout), and yet this seems to be a strawman you're building, can you direct me to who is wanting to trade LA straight across for Harden?
     
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    This thread: http://sportstwo.com/threads/215478-What-Would-You-Trade-For-Harden?highlight=harden+aldridge

    These posts:
     
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    Thank you. Not sure I saw that one at the time, or read all the way through it if I did. I believe the best way to build in the league is with a guy like Roy. Durant. Wade. James. harden. Kobe. Some of those names don't fit, I know. But basically, a dominant wing who is very good at creating for others as well. I would prefer to build around Harden than I would LMA long term. That being said, I'm also one for maximizing value, and/or buying low, and I would not do a straight up deal of the two when the value favors LMA currently. I said previously I'd do Ibaka and Harden, and I still would, 3 games aren't going to change my mind, just like the playoff games LMA played in this year aren't changing my mind. But I would need added value to do that deal.
     
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    I would do Aldridge for Ibaka and Harden as well, and I'm really not a fan of Harden. His production doesn't lie though, and him and Ibaka are exceptionally young.
     
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    Great idea. Give OKC an All-Star/All-NBA PF to go along with their MVP-level SF and All-NBA/All-Star PG. LMA would be the oldest at age 27. In return, Portland gets a 6th Man and a very limited (but effective in the right role) PF.
     
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    Yeah, cause Harden's going to be a career 6th man...

    Derp!
     
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    Is he going to be a franchise player? I just don't see it. Trading an All-NBA big on a decent contract for a smallish SG who is the 3rd-best player on his team, and who will get a big contract from someone, is stupid.
     
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    Has Aldridge proven himself as 'franchise player'?
     
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    What's Harden's PER in the finals?
     
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    Are you arguing for Harden over LMA in a straight-up trade?

    That's what is relevant. You'd trade away LMA for Harden?

    Curious. I'll even throw in Ibaka, since that caveat has been added.
     
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    He hit a few 3s down 20+ in the 4th in Game Five and ended up with 19 points.

    Mike Miller raped him on national TV, though, for the first 3 quarters of the game.
     
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    The straight-up is laughable. However, if you add Ibaka to it, then it's at least something to think about for a minute. Probably not still since you have to pay both in a couple of years at contract levels near LMA's (each), but talent-wise there's a ceiling for an All-Defensive Team big man and a 3rd-team All-NBA SG. 4 years ago when he was 23, LMA wasn't close to either of those.
     
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    Did I miss Harden being an All-NBA SG?
     
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    Nope. Do you not think that the 6th man of the year at 22 can have a ceiling of 3rd-team all-nba?
     
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    Who is the last 6th Man of the Year to make All-NBA at any point of his career? Manu Ginobli? He's still the 3rd-best player on the Spurs.

    You'd really trade LMA for Harden and Ibaka? Harden finally averaged 31 mpg this year after never topping 27 mpg in the previous two seasons.

    Is there a more overrated player according to RipcityTwo conventional wisdom in the NBA right now?
     
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    Bump.

    To be honest, I don't wish this had happened, because I hate Harden's game so much now.
     

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