Would You Trade Bynum for the #1 Pick?

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  1. Mamba

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 31 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can you imagine Beasley being tutored by KAJ? STUD.</div>

    Why would KAJ tutor Beasley? You make no flippin' sense...

    Could you imagine Bynum with Beasley's range? STUD!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 31 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 31 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can you imagine Beasley being tutored by KAJ? STUD.</div>

    Why would KAJ tutor Beasley? You make no flippin' sense...

    Could you imagine Bynum with Beasley's range? STUD!
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    Can you imagine Jason Collins as a 10 foot tall track runner who can dunk from half court, and shoot from the other team's three point line? STUD

    Stop making stupid comments.
     
  3. Mamba

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    LMAO oh man, your idiotic comments have reached a new level...I can't believe I'm having this debate with you...
     
  4. Really Lost One

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    Michael Beasley is not a center. He doesn't have the size to play center, so why would KAJ tutor him?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ May 31 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 31 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>20 and 10? Let's calm down.</div>
    Bynum was averaging around 20 and 10 the month before his injury, I believe. I saw those stats posted by nMg some time ago
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    17 and 12 in six games. Good numbers, but too small of a sample size and not 20 and 10.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ May 31 2008, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll be satisfied if Bynum can give us 10/10 consistently and anchor the defense. Lakers have plenty of options on offense, but we have lacked a shot blocking threat since Bynum got injured. Gasol did a solid job for us and did surprise me against Duncan, but the Lakers give up a lot of easy baskets when guards penetrate in the lane. If Bynum is back there patrolling the paint a majority of those layup attempts are going to be blocked or altered.

    Capable 7'2 centers are extremely rare to find in the NBA and you can't win a title without some type of presence in the post. Beasley has a lot of potential, but he's at least two or three seasons away from contributing consistently for a title contender.

    To be honest Bynum is also a question mark on how he'd handle himself in the post season, but the Lakers don't have anyone on the roster who can defend the post the way Bynum can because of his size and strength.

    Beasley would struggle to crack our rotation in his rookie season and I'm not sure how well he is at passing the basketball, which is essential in the Triangle offense. It would take him two seasons before he's comfortable in the offense and understands his role on the squad.

    If you hadn't notice, players who are used to being the number one option their entire career really struggle when they are forced to play in a system. The timing is off, the rhythm is off, the decision making is off, and there's a high level of discomfort and frustration.</div>

    I think there's one more question mark. Will he come back from his injury? At what level? He's already basically missed all the milestones they've talked about for his recovery - he should have been ready for the playoffs, no?
     
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    Those are valid questions DC, but no one can give an answer until Bynum steps on the court again. I like the fact he has youth on his side and looks dedicated on coming back and getting back to the level he was at prior to injury.
     
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    Bynum missed time in HS with a knee injury too...will he ever come back????????????/
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 31 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bynum missed time in HS with a knee injury too...will he ever come back????????????/</div>
    That's why I don't think the Bulls would accept such a trade with issues concerning Bynum's health.

    Hypothetically, it would be nice seeing Kobe and Rose in the same back court.
     
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    Uhm, there are no questions about Bynum's health.

    This knee injury was a freak accident caused by Bynum landing on Odom's foot. The further complicate things, the medical staff completely botched their rehab. When Bynum has to goo outside of the training staff to get Dr.'s to recommend a scope, then something is wrong.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 31 2008, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhm, there are no questions about Bynum's health.</div>

    Come again?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 31 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 31 2008, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhm, there are no questions about Bynum's health.</div>

    Come again?
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    That's what she said.
     
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    The only trade I would do now is role players for better role players.

    OR

    A Pau Gasol like trade. Sasha, Jordan, DFish, Ariza, and a pick for Chris Paul. HAHAHAHA (IM KIDDING)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 31 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhm, there are no questions about Bynum's health.

    This knee injury was a freak accident caused by Bynum landing on Odom's foot. The further complicate things, the medical staff completely botched their rehab. When Bynum has to goo outside of the training staff to get Dr.'s to recommend a scope, then something is wrong.</div>

    Botching the rehab does make his health a question, by definition. Don't you think?

    The nature of the accident isn't that relevant. Regardless of whether he's injury prone or not, the nature of the injury wiped out his season, and he hasn't really met any of the public milestones for rehab/recovery that the team has talked about in the press.

    No doubt, if/when he's healthy, he is a beast in the making (if not already).
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jun 1 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 31 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhm, there are no questions about Bynum's health.

    This knee injury was a freak accident caused by Bynum landing on Odom's foot. The further complicate things, the medical staff completely botched their rehab. When Bynum has to goo outside of the training staff to get Dr.'s to recommend a scope, then something is wrong.</div>

    Botching the rehab does make his health a question, by definition. Don't you think?

    The nature of the accident isn't that relevant. Regardless of whether he's injury prone or not, the nature of the injury wiped out his season, and he hasn't really met any of the public milestones for rehab/recovery that the team has talked about in the press.

    No doubt, if/when he's healthy, he is a beast in the making (if not already).
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    I don't look at the botched handling of the injury as a concern for Bynum. If he would've just went outside of the training staff like he eventually ended up doing, he would've had the scope earlier and would've probably been able to play.

    I'm not stupid, I know that there is always a risk of knee injuries altering career's forever, I just don't think this is one of those cases.
     
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    HS Knee injury...Knee injury in the pros that keeps him out much longer than expected...I'd call it a concern.
     
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    I am a little concerned about the injuries, but I don't think it will hold him back in the future. Our medical staff isn't really brilliant at what they do, so at hindsight, I actually wasn't so surprised to see Bynum miss the target date of recovery. Look at our past injuries, and see how many players actually return at the expected date. Besides Kobe, everyone takes longer to heal than reported. A couple of examples being Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm, Vladimir Radmanovic, Trevor Ariza, and Pau Gasol. All five players took much longer to heal from their injuries than previously expected. Not to mention they basically destroyed Karl Malone's knee, causing us a championship and forcing him into retirement. Like Mamba said, if our medical staff didn't try to bullshit through this injury, and allowed him to have surgery earlier, Bynum could have been playing by now. Also, anthroscopic knee surgery doesn't scare me at all. Kobe had it during the 2004 offseason, and look at him now. Tracy McGrady also had anthroscopic surgery on his knee (or maybe it was the shoulder) this offseason, and nobody has made a big deal out of it.
     
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    Mihm is a perfect example. Bynum's career trajectory better not follow Mihm's!
     
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    I don't think Mihm is a good comparison.

    His injury was pretty severe, IIRC. He took the Grant Hill path.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ May 31 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 31 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>20 and 10? Let's calm down.</div>
    Bynum was averaging around 20 and 10 the month before his injury, I believe. I saw those stats posted by nMg some time ago
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    Beasley averaged 20 and 10 in college, something Bynum didn't do [​IMG]

    But seriously, Bynum's recovery rate should be extremely questionable. That's a part of the worries about his health - and if he has already had multiple injuries to his knee, there should most definitely be questions about how his knee will hold up for the rest of his career.
     

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