Yikes Kingspeed, your really not making much sense. And for the record, Rookie year per 36 minute statistics: Dwight- 13.2pts, 11.1rebs, 1.0ast, 1.0stl, 1.8blk, 2.2tov, 52% FG%, 67% FT%, PER-17.2 Greg- 13.0pts, 12.7rebs, 1.2ast, 0.6stl, 2.7blk, 2.8tov, 48% FG%, 65% FT%, PER- 16.8 With Microfracture surgery, 18 months away from basketball, and two minor foot/ankle injuries to start training camp/regular season play (further inhibiting his conditioning/development) I'd say he's doing pretty respectable out there even for a number 1 pick.
Because Orlando sucked and had no talent and Portland is the 2nd best team in the west with a top 8 center on the roster. Oh, and he's coming back from surgery and slowly being brought along and into shape. If you want to complain about Oden's minutes, blame Nate.
"per 36 minute" stats don't mean much to me. Nothing against Greg. I'm just saying in general, I don't think those stats cross over. He grabbed 5 rebounds vs the Lakers. That doesn't mean he'd grab 20 if he played all game. This is not about Greg though. This is about that kind of stat.
Joel. Greg is obviously better, but he's out of shape and out of sync. Wait until you see the difference between Greg now and 3/4 into the season.
So back to the original point here.... The radio guys ask Quick where Oden's head is at, and he responds: "I don't even know because, to be honest, I can't really stand to be around him. He's such a downer. I've got no interest in talking to him right now." Let me get this straight: The Oregonian's beat writer can't address the development of a cornerstone of the franchise, because HE HAS NO INTEREST IN TALKING TO HIM?!?!?!? It is his job to talk to him!!! Nice journalism, Quick.
Kingspeed, I think you'd make a great beat writer for the Blazers. You seem to have all the necessary tools.
Chill the F out Speed. Oden, in spite of coming off microfracture surgery, which kept him off the court for 18 months, and the injury suffered opening night that further delayed his comeback/conditioning has 7 double-doubles in his first 16 NBA games. Dwight Howard, facing NONE of these obstacles AND playing considerably more minutes had 5 double-doubles in his first 16 NBA games. So, Oden is actually AHEAD of Howard's rookie pace - and that's not per/36 production, that's pure, raw production. Give the kid a chance. Stop saying he "has all the earmarks of a bust". He's played 16 games after missing 18 months with major knee surgery - and HE'S DOING FINE AND WILL ONLY GET BETTER. BNM
Sorry, I missed the previous comments that voiced both of my points. I just couldn't wade through all of the histeria.
Throw it down big man, throw it down! Eric, this thread is the worst thread... in the history of western civilization! Eric is one of the greats, Not just of this generation, but of all time. Oh, and BTW - Greg Ostertag is one of the top centers on this planet!
In no order: Yao, Dwight, Joel, Bynum, Kamen, Ilgauskas, Bogut ...TRUE C's are pretty thin right now...If you want to expand to the PF/C guys this list would be a lot different ...wait...why did i answer this here?
