WTF is going on with Harkless

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  1. SportsAndWhine

    SportsAndWhine Dumbass For Hire

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    I'm not against Scalma here; we can find a rookie who can do what Pat does; he'll just cost more and probably be boring.
     
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    Key is cost more and thats what D's point is.
     
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    That's not what Pat makes, nor is that what Pat will be making next season, so I don't see the point.
     
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    Oh... well DAMMIT @dviss1 ....
     
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    Shedbazz Napier-Davis is obviously our sixth man.

    Also, If you figure out how to offload Turner, you keep Patty C; he'll give you Evan Turner stats for 1/5th the price, which is almost the correct value for that performance.
     
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    The rookie will make way more per year for similar production.
     
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    Just curious, Nurkic, Davis, Pat, & Bazz.... We probably can't resign all of them and go so far over the cap. Who is the one man gone in this equation?
     
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    I kinda get where Scalma is coming from: a 26th pick will make 1.4 million a year, which is what Patty C is making now, but is a 26th pick a guarantee of quality? There have been 64 #26 picks, and only 49 ever played a minute in the NBA. Of those, only 17 have a WS/48 better than Patty C's. Of those, only 7 are guards. So in 63 years of the draft, seven guards are better than Patty C.

    ...of course, one of them was Dave Twardzik (the greatest 26th pick ever!) so maybe we're biased in favor of them.
     
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    1) Pat;
    2) Bazz

    Depending on what Neil thinks of the other backup PGs and Wings. Neither is irreplaceable if their asking price is too high.
     
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    Is @Mr. Robot reading? Obviously it's Nurkic :ghoti:
     
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    Yeah. I was thinking Bazz. We can slot Baldwin in there if he improves his shooting.
     
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    Fun Fact: Patty C and Klay Thompson have the exact same ORtg and Drtg this season.
     
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    That IS fun!
    Klay is a turd.
     
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    Wrong! (I just looked). Pat is better. :-). Pat is 113:110, and Klay is 111:111.
     
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    It's super weird; in PattyC's Splits page, it's 111/111 for Total 2017-18.
     
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    Is this an actual question? PC and Nurk and it isn't even close.
     
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    Who's to say we'll even use the pick? Patty knows the system and wouldn't need to integrate.
     
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    Cleveland will want it in return for LeBron.
     
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    If only this were factual.
     
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    Fun fact, Pat Connaughton is already the 11th winningest (total Win Shares) 41st pick of all time. He's the 3rd best all-time at 3P%. I guess if you're hoping we draft the next Cuttino Mobley, though, then yeah, he's easily replaceable by a rookie.

    :ghoti:
     
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