<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jul 30 2006, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i put Arod so low because if he bats lower, he will feel less pressure, which is his problem. so he hopefully will produce.</div>Or he could feel like Torre is losing faith in him which is why he dropped him in the lineup.Depends how A-Rod takes it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jul 30 2006, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>johnson has told people that he wants to play one more year after this one, then will retire. i dontcare if sheff retires or goes to anotyher team. eitehr way. I like cabrera. i want him to play.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You dont bat someone with a .427 On Base Percentage 8th, Abreu should be hitting Second or Third IMO to set up the RBI opportunities for Giambi and A-Rod. Not to mention that Sheffield is probably the better fielder then Abreu who seems to be scared of the outfield walls whenever he runs back on a play.</div>well, torre is very loyal. he will bat his guys ahead of a new guy. Either way its fine. He wont hit second (jeter cough cough jeter) and sheffield Fit perfectly in the #3 slot behind jeter. torre LOVES to do lefty-righty-lefty-righty etc in his lineups. damon LJeter RGiambi LSheff RAbreu LARod RMats LPosada SCano Lis a possibility, and its what is on espn.com</div>That right there is stupid. If he was so loyal so how come Damon bats first and not Jeter? Damon was an enemy when he was a bosox until he became a yankee. Torre isnt going to be loyal to anyone. Hes going to setup a lineup which he will feel will win the most games and have the most chemistry. If Joe is so loyal then how come A-Rod had to sitout some games when he was in that defensive and offensive slump?
He IS VERY loyal. Explain why Bernie Williams get so much playing time even WHEN Matsui and Sheff are healthy. Bernie DHing? HE SUCKS AT HITTING.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ST34LTH @ Jul 31 2006, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He IS VERY loyal. Explain why Bernie Williams get so much playing time even WHEN Matsui and Sheff are healthy. Bernie DHing? HE SUCKS AT HITTING.</div>Because he's a proven veteran. PLus you obviously dont watch yankees games because he's batting .280, 8 hr's and 43 rbi's. That isnt hitting that sucks. Thats very good production off the bench. Bernie still comes up in clutch situations. The only reason he was benched and considered of not coming back was because of his defense.
damon bats leadoff because JEter can bat 1 or 2 eqaully, probably at #2 while damon is THE PERFECT leadoff hitter. Obviously he does wahts best to win, but in a situation where either one works (such as our lineup quandary) then he goes with his guy. Bernie is still a good hitter. Gotskills is right - he is only benched now for normal rest and defense. his defense has declined greatly, but hes still a smart hitter and a clutch hitter
AND he benched Arod during the slump because a lot of times, duringa slump, you bench a guy, it clears his head. he can have fun at the park because he doenst have the weight of the slump on his head.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><u>Big heist for the Yankees</u>posted: Sunday, July 30, 2006 | Print EntryThe Yankees get a big OBP boost and the best fifth starter they've had all year, and they did it by using money (of which they have a lot) instead of prospects (of which they have few once you exclude Philip Hughes and Jose Tabata). The Phillies, meanwhile, get some salary relief for 2007, but not much else.Bobby Abreu may or may not have lost his power -- I think it's overblown, as he's still on pace for 40-plus doubles and doesn't look like he's lost bat speed or raw strength -- but he's still one of the best offensive players in the game. He's about to post his eighth straight 100-walk season and has the fifth-best OBP in the game. The Yankees have been running a Bernie Williams/Aaron Guiel platoon out in left, and while Guiel has hit a few homers since he came to the Bronx, he's still a four-A player who has no place on a contending club's roster. Even if Abreu's home run total remains low, he's worth two extra wins to the Yankees if he takes at-bats away from Bernie and Guiel, and more if his home-run power comes back.Cory Lidle is a finesse right-hander with excellent control who will probably struggle to be a league-average starter in the American League at this point, but he is an enormous improvement over Sidney Ponson, Kris Wilson and Aaron Small -- whom the Yanks have employed as fifth starters this year. Lidle's best pitch is a splitter, but his fastball is a tick below average so he has to have good command to be effective and keep the ball out of the seats. Since the guys he's replacing have been so bad, he's still a one-to-two-win upgrade for the balance of the season, making this one of the biggest impact deals any club will make this month.The Phillies finally came off their demands for top prospects and instead chose to dump the two contracts, saving $15 million in 2007 by moving Abreu. The only player they acquired with any sort of major-league value right now is lefty specialist Matt Smith, a 27-year-old veteran of the Yankee farm system.The Phils did acquire some interesting prospects. Shortstop C.J. Henry is best known as the guy the Yankees took in the 2005 draft even though right-handed pitcher Craig Hansen was still available. Henry is a raw five-tool talent and still just 20 years old. His swing is long, but he generates plus power and is a good baserunner with well-above-average speed. He has struggled in the South Atlantic League this year across the board. Though he has the physical tools to stay at short, it remains to be seen how his body develops and whether he outgrows the position. The Phillies also acquired two players from the Yankees' Gulf Coast League affiliate, athletic catcher Jesus Sanchez and hard-throwing right-hander Carlos Monasterios, both of whom are so far away that they're more pre-prospects than prospects.So the three minor-league players the Phils acquired aren't going to help the big-league club until at least 2009 or 2010, and none is good enough to be the centerpiece for a subsequent deal. As a result, the Phillies haven't done anything to improve their club for 2007 except add financial flexibility, but with a thin free-agent market this winter, it's not clear that they'll have superior outlets for spending that money.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Jul 31 2006, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ST34LTH @ Jul 31 2006, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He IS VERY loyal. Explain why Bernie Williams get so much playing time even WHEN Matsui and Sheff are healthy. Bernie DHing? HE SUCKS AT HITTING.</div>Because he's a proven veteran. PLus you obviously dont watch yankees games because he's batting .280, 8 hr's and 43 rbi's. That isnt hitting that sucks. Thats very good production off the bench. Bernie still comes up in clutch situations. The only reason he was benched and considered of not coming back was because of his defense.</div>Obviously don't watch Yankee games? Actually I watch every f*cking one of them. .280 8 HR and 43 RBI is NOT good for a DH. DH were talking about sluggers. I would much rather have Phillips at first and Giambi DH, then Giambi at 1st and Bernie DH. Bernie sucks if you actually watch him. He is NOT clutch. Bases loaded 1 out? Double Play.Btw, the Yankees just dealt Chacon for Craig Wilson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ST34LTH @ Jul 31 2006, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Jul 31 2006, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ST34LTH @ Jul 31 2006, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He IS VERY loyal. Explain why Bernie Williams get so much playing time even WHEN Matsui and Sheff are healthy. Bernie DHing? HE SUCKS AT HITTING.</div>Because he's a proven veteran. PLus you obviously dont watch yankees games because he's batting .280, 8 hr's and 43 rbi's. That isnt hitting that sucks. Thats very good production off the bench. Bernie still comes up in clutch situations. The only reason he was benched and considered of not coming back was because of his defense.</div>Obviously don't watch Yankee games? Actually I watch every f*cking one of them. .280 8 HR and 43 RBI is NOT good for a DH. DH were talking about sluggers. I would much rather have Phillips at first and Giambi DH, then Giambi at 1st and Bernie DH. Bernie sucks if you actually watch him. He is NOT clutch. Bases loaded 1 out? Double Play.Btw, the Yankees just dealt Chacon for Craig Wilson.</div>Yea right. Obviously if you did watch yankees games then you would know Bernie is still a good all-around player. Do you expect an old man like Bernie to hit hr's like a true DH would? .280 average for a 38 year old man is pretty good. Plus Bernie and Giambi both share the DH position which means he shouldnt be hitting for power. His job is to plain simply get on base. Bernie has only hit into one Bases loaded DP so I dont know where ur getting that from. Bernie is also batting .276 with RISP which is dam good. For those reasons you obviously dont watch yankees games. PLus its sad how you disgrace one of the best yankees of all time. How many rings did he bring to the Yanks?No Yankee fan would say that stuff bout Bernie
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Jul 31 2006, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>damon bats leadoff because JEter can bat 1 or 2 eqaully, probably at #2 while damon is THE PERFECT leadoff hitter. Obviously he does wahts best to win, but in a situation where either one works (such as our lineup quandary) then he goes with his guy. Bernie is still a good hitter. Gotskills is right - he is only benched now for normal rest and defense. his defense has declined greatly, but hes still a smart hitter and a clutch hitter</div>Thank you for proving my point. Torre will put together a lineup that will have chemistry and win games. You wouldnt bat Damon last just because he's new to the team. Just like Abreu shouldnt be batting last or near it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ Aug 16 2006, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They're going to be a modern-day version of murderer's row. So what??? They don't have any pitching.</div>Better pitching than the Bosox, and that's all that matters right now.
