Yankees Rotation Troubles...

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  1. BigDaddyAl1973

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    Did I say the yankees disrespected him...stop putting words in my mouth. Where did I say he was the reason the yankees won a championship? I said he won a championship here..what else is there for him to do here?

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    You also jumped over my question...would you turn down another 70plus million?

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    ...no one is putting words in your mouth, so please, just stop with the pity party...you know what I'm talking about...did you forget about the other thread. ...you pointed to him "winning a championship" (2009)...he was a non-factor, period...so I suppose using your logic, the bat boy also won a championship?...Now how are Yanx fans "jealous"?...do you have an actual answer or not?
     
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    ..I didn't "jump over" your question, I simply dismissed it as irrelevant.

    ...lemme dummy this down even more for you and try as best you can to wrap your head around this very simple concept...if Cano cared at all about the HOF, his legacy, etc., there should have been no offer from Seattle to begin with. If he had not considered money alone he would have taken the Yanx' $25 Mil per year...it was a fair offer.
    ...if you disagree with this, you are essentially saying that the ONLY consideration for players is how much money they can squeeze out of a team.
     
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    Booing a player simply because he did what is best for him is being jealous. What are the goals of a player? To win a title? Check...to be a very good player...one of the best st his position...check...to make tons kf money...check. again...nobody on this board no in the stands who booed cano would turn down 70 milliom dollars. Your fooling youself if you think you wouldnt. Now he has a new challenge. Play in seattle, imagine if you can take off the center of the universe yankee glasses for a second, if he won in seattle....

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    Ive been to the HOF..guess what there are plenty of players in there that never wore the pinstripes. Cano can still have a legacy and be a hof'er without playing the rest of his career in the bronx.

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    ...no, again, that's not "jealousy"... try contemptuous, big difference.

    ...and having a ring, being very good player were things he already had, and they were fruits of playing for the Yanx. A "making tons of money"?...are you saying that the Yanx's $175 offer was not a "ton of money"?


    ...and in case you have not noticed, you're on a YANKEES message board...and around here, yes, they ARE the "center of the universe".
     
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  8. yankeesince59

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    ...is there some sort of point there?...answer this simple question; Would Cano have been more assured of the HOF if he had remained in NY?...yes or no? If you say no, you implying that his numbers will be the same in Seattle.
     
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    No one is assured of anything.

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    So your saying as long as he plays in new york surrounded by talent he is a sure in with the hof...is that what your implying?

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    ...uhhh, I said "MORE assured"...did you miss that?...now answer the question.
     
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    ...are you naturally obtuse, or is it an acquired trait?...now again, go back and reread the question....s l o w l y .
     
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    I guess this doesnt qualify as an answer to your question.

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    ...you're right, it doesn't qualify as an answer because that was not my question.

    ...here, I'll copy and paste the ACTUAL question for you again,...and try not to completely botch it this time.;


    "Would Cano have been MORE assured of the HOF if he had remained in NY?"
     
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    Al, don't want to appear that we're ganging up on you but its not 72M or 70M, its 65M & again he didn't leave for the money. As was pointed out SEVERAL times the Yankees offered more per year then Seattle 25M to 24M, He left for the addition 3 years like he really expects to get better between the ages of 39-42.

    And as far as HIM winning a championship, The Yankees won a championship which Cano was a MAJOR non factor. The point is that Cano did not think this thing through, not only was he NOT disrespected but he went to a team that doesn't have a snow balls chance in hell of winning a world series or even make a playoff appearance. With the Yankees he was a definite hall of famer, with Seattle his #s will suffer. But Al I am curious, do you think the Yankees disrespected him or was it just a really stupid thing to say? I'll wait.
     
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    Ask don Mattingly that question....

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    ...you simply cannot stay on topic, can you?...I'm not asking Donnie, I'm asking you?

    ...what the hell does Mattingly have to do with this?...we're talking about the difference in hitting in a stacked line up in hitter friendly YS every year vs hitting in a weak line up and having to play at Safeco Field every year.
     
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    Mattingly never really had the supporting cast around him. And you seemed to have missed my post #35. I'm still waiting.
     
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    First off, sorry I didn't reply in a fast enough time frame, I was on my phone now im in the officer where it is a little easier to respond using a keyboard and not a cell phone.

    Your numbers are off a little, the difference is that New York he would be taxed at over 7% of his income where the great state of Washington has zero income tax. So more money for Cano.

    Also you make it seem that Cano was riding the coattails on the 2009 championship team. The guy batted 320 with 25 home runs, 85 rbi's and 103 runs scored in that championship season, I think he had a little something to do with winning the title that year? Wouldn't you agree? Don't make him out to be Jerry Hairston Jr on that team.
     
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    For the third time...you are not assured of anything, since you like to play with words...does he have a better chance of compiling better stats with a stacked lineup? sure. Does that make him a better player? I guess if that is the case simply just play in Yankee Stadium, everyone would be a HOF'er.

    Not every team's fan base boos a returning player...Red Sox fans cheered Wade Boggs when he came back as a Yankee.
     

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