Game Thread Yankees vs. Pink Hatters Thursday 5/30/19, 7:05 pm

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  1. Lillie

    Lillie Well-Known Member

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    LeMahieu -2B
    Voit -1B
    Hicks -CF
    Sanchez -C
    Torres -SS
    Morales -DH
    Urshela -3B
    Maybin -RF
    Gardner -LF
     
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    Heya Lil' what's the weather looking like for tonight???
     
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    again i would go back and say to you, how many teams draft, develop and keep their starters?

    The Yankees have had numerous pitchers go down with major injuries. Could they do better drafting, sure, but you make it sound like they are the only team where I just showed you the top three teams have maybe 1 starter that they developed.

    Sevy was becoming that guy.
    Home grown pitching is very rare. I pretty sure if you go back to each world series winner you are not going to find those teams with home grown pitching.
     
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    Flash back to 2004 Yankee spring training. Cashman stood proudly with Phil Hughes, Joba
    Chamberlain & Ian Kennedy.....the trio of home grown starters....to pitch for years to come.
    At that time Cashman said, “.....the Yankees had finally gotten it right....”. He claimed that to be
    successful ‘you have to develop your own starting pitching because it is too expensive to get
    pitching through the free agent market’. He also claimed that the Yankee goal was to be starting
    pitching independent.

    Well there is a goal that has been lost through the last 17 to 20 years!
     
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    Crappy :lol:
     
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    ^^^^^BigDaddyAl, it’s fine that you give the stats of other teams. For me, I don’t care what or how
    other teams get their starters. Mr.Cashman has a long history of saying one thing and doing another.
    Yes, Seve could be that star starter. I just feel Cashman’s home grown pitching productivity leaves
    the team too dependent on free agents...that’s a far cry from his 2004 comments!
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    The forecast predicts thunderstorms & showers from 5 PM through midnight.
    Yep. It looks like a crappy weather evening!
     
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    Yankee game cancelled and will be made up in August
     
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    Tonight's Game has been Cancelled will be made up on August 3rd at 7:00 pm.
     
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    you are more than entitled to your opinion, i think you are being extremely harsh.
    You dont care what other teams do but you make it sound like the Yankees are the only team in baseball that hasnt produced quality starters. Drafting baseball players is a total crap shoot to begin with. The fact that they had pitchers suffer career altering or ending injuries. Its not like the Yanks have had top end draft picks to begin with either.

    Cole was a Yankee draft pick.

    Joba should have been a top end pitcher that got his head screwed around by the stupid joba rules and midges... no one questioned Phil Hughes pick and Ian Kennedy is still in the majors...
     
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    No Fighting Please. :lol:
     
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    What a crock of shit, I was looking forward to a double header this weekend. At least the Rays are playing a competitive Twins Team this evening instead of a horse shit team. Maybe the Yanks can pick up another half game.
     
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    One could argue this one all day and week; maybe all year; based on the criterias of drafting; developing and keeping SP's as well as RP's....

    In my eyes the Bums have lead the pack; until Y2K....
    one cannot count Pitchers acquired through trades; or Pitchers prior to Free Agency.

    Here's a list of decent (some great) Pitchers who were drafted and for the most part stuck around; less say Pedro Martinez; who didn't catch Lasorda's blind eyes after 3 yrs in the Org.

    In fact when comparing the last 10 yrs with the prior 20 yrs; one can't even begin to compare the lack of drafting; developing and keeping Pitchers with aformentioned decades...

    Dodgers
    Welch
    Hershiser
    Stewart
    Pedro and Ramon Martinez
    Belcher
    Valenzuela
    Niedenfurer
    Dreifort
    Nomo
    Howe
    Kershaw
    Buehler
    Maeda

    Royals
    Saberhagen
    Greinke (I still scratch my head over this ignorant move)
    Appier
    Flash Gordon
    Gubicza

    Jays
    Key
    D. Wells
    Stieb
    Hallady
    Hentgen
    Guzman
    Stroman

    Braves
    Smoltz
    Glavine
    Avery
    Stanton
    Wohlers
    Bedrosian

    Diamondbacks
    Scherzer (Yep; the D'backs were dumb enough to let Mad Max go for a 3 way deal b/t the Yanx and Tiggers)
    Bauer
     
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    Btw...ya remember the yankees developed this guy named Rivera...
     
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    The Greatest Closer we will ever see.
    Mo's saves record will never remotely broken....
     
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    There is one relief record list, however, that Rivera has avoided. Since 1913, there have been 110 times when a pitcher has blown at least three consecutive saves. Many of the greats certainly have done it. Rivera has not....
     
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    Game Recap-

     
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