You must be hallucinating on Kobe's semen or something...okay Yao puts up 20 and 10. Shaq puts up 20 and 9. But Shaq is still one of the most dominate in the NBA. He is still a force on defense, even though he is slow he cans till get up there and interfere with shots, and no one can dunk over the guy, great inside player, great hands for a big man and good passer. And he is so dominant. Yao is a good offensive player but he is a horrible defender.Right now I would rather Marcus Camby, Ben and Shaq over Yao. Yao can settle at 4th.
^Umm, Yao is averaging more PPG and RPG on over 50% shooting, better free throw %, much better defender, more moves in post, and has better hands that Shaq does. Except for the fact that Shaq is still dominant, I do not think any of your points are valid to why Shaq is better.
No, Yao is not a good defender. He mainly just stands around there on defense. Shaq is still dominant in the post, more so then Yao. And still a domianant player on both ends. You'd have to be stupid to take Yao over Shaq. I do not care if Shaq is slowing down. He is still the best Center in the league.
Shaq is lazy on D, and when he faces a good center like Yao, he get sinto foul trouble quick. Yao used to be like that, but is now much more controlled. He seems to beat Shaq in there battles, and he always keeps people in check with his footwork and huge body (he is 300lbs, which is a ton, and is 7'6''). Shaq isn't dominant offensively that much anymore. Yao is more dangerous nowadays, as he can score from further out, and once he gets to a certain spot, it's over. Shaq is similar in that fashion, but doesn't have that shooting range or speed to get to basket like Yao does.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 8 2006, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, Yao is not a good defender. He mainly just stands around there on defense. Shaq is still dominant in the post, more so then Yao. And still a domianant player on both ends. You'd have to be stupid to take Yao over Shaq. I do not care if Shaq is slowing down. He is still the best Center in the league.</div> He's 7'6", he's always going to look like he's standing around...he can't bend down like Ben Wallace and just get his body on a guy. For how big Yao is he's shown some defense this year.
I would also say Yao is greater than Shaq. It's hard to believe but Shaq gets a ton of more help and isn't dominating like he used to. Wade is one of the best players in the league. Yao has Juwan Howard (a defenseive liability) and still Houston is a pretty good defensive team. If Mcgrady was healthy and at his normal self Houston could be a serious threat to any team they play in the first round.
Yao ming Shows he's the best center in the league. He destroyed Indiana.And CB shaq is not a force on defense. His D is atrocious [now].
Camby is an overrated defensive player- sure he gets blocks, and steals- but so the eff what? His defensive +/- is mediocre at best. His team's defense is HORRIBLE. Ben is an overrated offensive player- he has no footwork, no shot outside of 2 feet within the bucket. He is HORRIBLE on that end.Shaq is near retirmenet- he is nowhere near the same player he once was. He is nowhere near dominant right now.All the haters have been saying that Yao's defense is horrible- but he is a shotblocking/shotaltering force underneath the bucket (averaging 1.7 this year with an injured toe and around 2 in previous years), has a damn good defensive +/- and has been anchoring one of the best defenses in the league.All the haters have been saying Yao's rebounding is horrible- but he is averaging over 10All the haters have been saying his stamina hasn't increased- but he has been averaging 4 mpg more this year than he did last year.OVER THE PAST 9 GAMES- YAO HAS BEEN AVERAGING:36.8 MPG, 27.8 PPG (53.6% FG), 13.7 RPG, 2.3 BPGAND THE ROCKETS HAVE GONE 7-2 OVER THAT SPAN- 2 games (both wins) which TMac has missed (and one which he left early)There is NO CENTER BETTER THAN YAO RIGHT NOW. That is a FACT
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Mar 8 2006, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shaq is lazy on D, and when he faces a good center like Yao, he get sinto foul trouble quick. Yao used to be like that, but is now much more controlled. He seems to beat Shaq in there battles, and he always keeps people in check with his footwork and huge body (he is 300lbs, which is a ton, and is 7'6''). Shaq isn't dominant offensively that much anymore. Yao is more dangerous nowadays, as he can score from further out, and once he gets to a certain spot, it's over. Shaq is similar in that fashion, but doesn't have that shooting range or speed to get to basket like Yao does.</div>Shaq may be growing tired and being lazy on D but when he is focused, he is still a good defensive player. Shaq is still dominant in the post. He still is one of the best back to the basket players, and he is so powerful and dominant even if he is slowing down. He still scores as much as Yao. It depends what you would rather have. A finesse player, pretty good scorer/rebounder or a kind of slow power/semi-dominant post player/good passer. I'd still take Shaq but it's your opinion.
Shaq is going down hill very rapidly but still Yao Ming is not the best Center in the League. I would put Camby, Ben Wallace and Shaq over him not in any particular order. Yao has some more work to do but he has been playing really good basketball player that is deffinately going to help the Rockets get a better seed in the playoffs and maybe make a run for the Finals.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Mar 9 2006, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ben Wallace is an overrated offensive player... </div>By saying that he has offense- you are overrating his offenseHe is HORRIBLE on that end.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 9 2006, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shaq may be growing tired and being lazy on D but when he is focused, he is still a good defensive player. Shaq is still dominant in the post. He still is one of the best back to the basket players, and he is so powerful and dominant even if he is slowing down. He still scores as much as Yao. It depends what you would rather have. A finesse player, pretty good scorer/rebounder or a kind of slow power/semi-dominant post player/good passer. I'd still take Shaq but it's your opinion.</div>Why?
As of now I'd take Yao over Ben, Shaq and Camby..Hes tearing it up right now.Hes showing signs of domination soon.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 9 2006, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shaq may be growing tired and being lazy on D but when he is focused, he is still a good defensive player. Shaq is still dominant in the post. He still is one of the best back to the basket players, and he is so powerful and dominant even if he is slowing down. He still scores as much as Yao. It depends what you would rather have. A finesse player, pretty good scorer/rebounder or a kind of slow power/semi-dominant post player/good passer. I'd still take Shaq but it's your opinion.</div>Yes, when he is focused. But he is never focused, in shape, or works hard enough to be a good defender. Yao is a GREAT scorer, just as efficient on offense as Shaq with more weapons, and if you have watched the Rockets since February, you'd see that he has been a monster on both ends of floor. And Yao is just as good a passer as Shaq, and better defensively.
Yao is not better then Shaq defensively. Yao is always just standing around. I know Shaq gets tired sometimes but to say that Yao is a better defender then Shaq is ludicrous.
Shaq is LAZY on D. Yao looks like he is standing around, mostly because they are playing zone. Once smaller players come in to drive, he swats them or makes them pass to shooters. And Yao is terrific on ball defender. He is so tall and strong that it is impossible for players to manhandle him. Same thing goes for offensively.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Mar 9 2006, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yao is not better then Shaq defensively. Yao is always just standing around. I know Shaq gets tired sometimes but to say that Yao is a better defender then Shaq is ludicrous.</div>Can you please throw some facts?At least one statistic- I mean, these arguments are worthless without them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 10 2006, 05:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. I think Dampier is the best center in the league now. lol</div>I know you;re joking but the jokes have to end. People are going to think you're a tard.
