OT Yet another reason to bring Cousins

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  1. ripcityboy

    ripcityboy Well-Known Member

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    I'd pray for this to happen! :breakdance:
     
  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Sounds kind of like the Blazers three years ago. We had the best starting 5, but the worst bench in the league. The difference - that team won 54 games, not 30.

    BNM
     
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    Our bench was better than theirs. We had a better starting lineup than theirs. We had a better culture than theres. We had more chemistry than them. We had a better system than them. Our pieces meshed better than theirs. Our coach was more in command of the locker room.
     
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    It's kind of a chicken or the egg debate. I'm not sure which side to be on. Cousins does a lot of good thing but has obvious problems. The Kings are certainly a mess and its not all Cousins fault. We've seen players in the past clean up their act when they get in a better environment. We've also seen troubled players have problems on every team their a part of.
     
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    Also, bigs rarely lead teams to wins. Remember what LMA did when he didn't have Lillard or Roy?
    You generally need your best player to be a guard/wing if you want to win games. Take a look at NOP - that Davis guy sucks.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    We already have the guard. We need to pair him with the right big.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    This is just sick.

     
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    Tim Duncan and Shaq on line 1.
     
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    C'mon - you're smarter than that. Rarely =/= Never.
    If your examples are (1) the best big to ever play the game and (2) the most dominant big to ever play the game, I'd say those are pretty rare guys.
     
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    Not at all. I just picked 2 of the most recent. There are a lot of other big men if you go back beyond those 2. The game has changed for now so is less big man oriented but like everything else, is cyclical and 'bigs' will come back.
     
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    Hey, I've been saying this for a while now. But the fact remains that guard/wing-lead teams are more apt to succeed than big-lead teams. I've illustrated this too many times, and don't want to rehash it again. Maybe in the summer.
    And your "recent" examples are a decade+ old.
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    yea, would be horrible to have someone like that on the team you like.....



    its kinda sad really, we have at least 2 bigs that are just as mobile, and could be near that level with ball handling in plums and nards, but have NEVER seen either of them even attempt driving on their man from outside like that. we better make sure we never change that!


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    I've seen Plumlee go from coast-to-coast on a few occasions. Honestly, his ball-handling does remind me a bit of Cousins'. But he doesn't have the outside shot to help him get by his defender in the half-court. The fact that he does it as much as he has is pretty impressive.

    I've also seen Leonard fake the 3 and put the ball on the floor a few times. It's something I'd like to see him do a lot more. He has terrible foot speed, but with practice I do think he could be more effective when opponents close-out on him on the 3-point line.
     
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    Tim Duncan just won a title last year and while he wasn't the MVP, they don't win it without him anchoring the front court. Guard/wings are certainly all the rage right now as 'bigs' were from from the mid 80's-2005. Yes, many of those didn't win a title due to the GOAT but Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, Shaq even players like Yao for a short time all were very much on the winning side of most of their games. Put a healthy Sabonis in ANY era and he is going to dominate. Can you see Draymond Green trying to guard him? That would be hysterical.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Dribbling past a tree? Big deal...
     
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    How many 7' 300 lb guys can move and handle like that, even with no defender in front of them?

    Your guy Joel Przybilla certainly can't.
     
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    Yes this surprises me as well. I do like how he can catch in traffic and finish at the rim. But I can't help but wonder if maybe he will be able to shoot well enough from the outside to keep the defense honest. I mean we have seen him do it on occasion when the shot clock is expiring. (and make it) Maybe a full summer of shooting 10-12 sets shots and he can try it more often.

    If he makes 2-3 per game.... and all of a sudden he is averaging 12-15 pts. (he average 9 now) That is ample from the center spot.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    7'? 300?

    Methinks thou dost hyperbolize too much...
     
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    Yeah, I want both Plumlee and Davis shooting 1,000+ 10-15' jumpers a day all summer long. There's absolutely no reason those guys can't shoot that at a 40% clip - which isn't necessarily good, but would at least be good enough. Plumlee is definitely closer to being adequate, but there's no reason Ed can't get there too.
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    yes plums IS known for running the court with the ball, but not stopping at the 3pt line, sizing up the defender and taking him to the basket. every one of our big men would have passed or handed the ball off to dame/cj in that same sittuation
     
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