You Be the GM

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Chris Craig, May 18, 2018.

  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    His problem is more or less how much he makes not how good he is. He’s a decent defender, his 3 pointer is ugly but the % went up, and he does have a decent post game too. I don’t think it’s likely anyone takes him while he’s making that much, but if he was making Moe Harkless money our perception of him would be totally different.
     
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    True... unfortunately Neil gave him 18 mil per when there was no competition for his services
     
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    Now that is true.
     
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    I don’t get when teams do this type of thing, sports are about competing with the other teams / players out there not yourself. It’s like when some GM in football decides to take a flyer on some guy in the 1st or second round that would’ve been there in the 4th. Except in this case you could’ve got ET for probably 4-5m less a year (maybe more). Or Meyers Leonard for like Lochness Monster(that’s $3.50) type money but... we’ve been over this a million times.
     
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    Ya, when the player himself calls his buddy and says can you believe what they offered...well that is a problem. And his buddy, Andre Iguodala, told him to take it now and run. Even they thought it was a joke...well it was. Unfortunately the joke was on us.
     
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    This story every time I see it, or hear it, just sucks....
     
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    Nope, and we shouldn't try that either.
     
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    As most of you know, I don't think Portland is as close as Portland does. Adding playoff caliber guys simply to get to the second round does nothing for me, so if I were GM, I'd take a shot at a difference maker. It will take some fortune and luck, but here goes.

    I like Stotts, but if I were GM, I'd make a change. I believe in Becky Hammon. She would be my choice.

    I would not re-sign Nurkic, Napier, Layman, Connaughton or Papaiannis.

    Trade CJ McCollum, Zach Collins and #24 to SA for Kawhi Leonard. They probably say no, but we're pretending anyway, so why not?

    Sign someone like Ellington, Barton or Evans. For the purpose of a roster, I'll use Ellington.

    Re-sign Davis

    Sign Mbah a Moute

    Sign a center....Noel? O'Quinn?

    Move Harkless for a lower 1st and draft Troy Brown from Oregon

    Dame / Baldwin
    Ellington / Brown
    LeonarD / Turner
    Mbah a Moute / Aminu / Caleb
    O'Quinn / Davis

    Fill out the roster.

    I think this roster would be more versatile than last years, and have guys able to guard multiple positions

    It may backfire, but at least I'd take my shot

    Don't kill me if it's cap unfriendly
     
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    I appreciate that you gave it a shot when others just say something (what?) needs to be done but it definitely won't work under the cap (which it looks like you figured) and that is part of being a GM.
     
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    I wouldn't get the job as the GM most likely as I think this team needs a retool (not a rebuild) instead of trying to go for it this year. I think we still need this off-season and next off-season of drafts still before we go trading picks to get vets.

    I wouldn't move CJ unless it was getting great value for him. Any trade of him would also send Meyers out. I think this is unlikely so I think I am keeping CJ. If there is a deal to be made I think it is most likely with Cleveland but outside of their pick and Love I don't have any interest. Unless LeBron leaves I think they say no thanks. I would revisit CJ deals at the deadline as their may be better offers then.

    I would definitely resign Nurkic. I would also like to resign Ed Davis but more as a luxury then a must.

    I am NOT giving up picks to get rid of Leonard or Turner. Next summer they will be easy to move and a team may even give up a 2nd to take on their expiring deals.

    I am looking for versatile defenders on the 2nd unit. I know it would seem contradictory but I would move Aminu in the right deal (because unless I am firing my coach he REFUSES to put Aminu on the 2nd unit where I would like him).

    I don't see guys who make right about 13 MIL as great options for the TPE. They are pretty MEH players. I would only use it on one if the team also sent me a 1st round pick. If I get another pick (in addition to ours) then I am combining both to move up. Or at the very least trying to move up a couple spots plus get a 2nd out of my two 1sts. I don't want two guaranteed contracts in all cases. It would depend on the players I come out with.

    For the Tax Payer MLE if I could get Will the Trill to give up a bunch of money (unlikely) then he is obviously the 1st choice. Don't see it happening though. So I move on to someone like Wayne Ellington or Joe Harris. Hezonja if he doesn't get a bigger offer (but I think he will).

    I would only bring back Napier and Pat-Con if I needed to fill out a couple roster spots. Otherwise they can walk if they get better offers. I am not bringing back Layman at all. Papa is intriguing if I don't bring back Ed.

    I believe in Zach and would not look to get a PF to start over him unless it was an all-star like Love.

    If you can get a guy like Luc Mbah a Moute for the vet minimum you jump on it but he is going to have pick of teams who can challenge for a ring so I move to a guy like Vince Carter (also may go ring shopping and I prefer defender) or Tony Allen at the vet minimum.

    This (unfortunately) is a couple year process and can't be fixed with just this summer alone.
     
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    The dominance of GS got you down? You want to set yourself up for the future?

    Lillard, CJ for #1, Booker (I don't think Phoenix will do it, but whatever, and cap....)

    Doncic/Booker/Harkless/Collins/Nurk

     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    For not thinking you'd get the job you sure laid out a nice, logical, detailed plan.
     
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    Let me ask you a question:

    If Olshey pulled off any of your proposals without giving up CJ (Saric/Covington, Griffin, Love, Jordan, #9, #10, #12 or #13, #14 pick, etc) would you be okay with those changes?
     
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    Yes... still think Dame/CJ combo is fundamentally flawed... but I welcome any major change... I’ll be happy if I’m wrong and Dame and CJ works... just don’t see it and don’t see away to get any of those players without trading CJ
     
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    Well, Covington is probably available if the 76ers sign someone better considering they are pretty down on him right now. The Griffin situation will depend on their new GM who could possibly not want to pay him $38 million when he is 33. Love could be had for relatively cheap if LeBron leaves. The Clippers want Jordan to opt out so if he opts in and ruins their cap space situation they could look to move him. @BonesJones and I have posted several trade proposals to add try and add a late lottery pick that don't involve CJ. It is possible and just takes one to work out.

    As for my Jonah Bolden and Khyri Thomas idea, I think Bolden is going to be a Saric like player who can stretch the floor. He is not as skilled offensively but does have better rebounding and defensive potential. Khyri Thomas is a defensive specialist like Covington but unlike Covington, Thomas is a lights out shooter. Realistically we could get both of those guys and they could end up being similar versions to Saric and Covington.
     
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    You lost me at "Sign Meatball ala Mootay"
     
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    Cause there is no player named McLillard. Only clueless people use names like that.
     
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    Covington just made NBA All Defense 1st team... but you are right, steals are misleading stat for him
     
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    First of all, I never said he was a bad defender, just that steals aren't the greatest indicator of defensive ability. Second of all, my point was that we need players that are good on both ends of the court which Covington is not. Third of all, Damian Lillard received a vote for All-NBA defense so can they really be taken that seriously?
     

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