<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Aug 12 2006, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why is everyone putting Orlando over Washington in the South East Division..?</div>orlando depends on grant hill IMOif hes healthy(60, hell even 50 games), they > nets
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Aug 12 2006, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, the Magic will win 60 games if they have Grant Hill That's the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.</div>i meant if he plays for that many games
Which would you rather havewight Howard Jameer Nelson JJ RedickHedo TurkogluGrant HillDarko MilicicOR Gilbert ArenasCaron ButlerAntawn JamisonDeShawn StevensonAntionio DanielsDarius SongailaBrendan HaywoodJarvis HayesHill is still consistent, but he's only going to give you around 14-15 ppg if he plays 60 games. I dont see how that is such a big difference.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Aug 12 2006, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Which would you rather havewight Howard Jameer Nelson Hedo TurkogluGrant HillDarko MilicicOR Gilbert ArenasCaron ButlerAntawn JamisonDeShawn StevensonAntionio DanielsDarius SongailaBrendan HaywoodJarvis HayesHill is still consistent, but he's only going to give you around 14-15 ppg if he plays 60 games. I dont see how that is such a big difference.</div>basically Dwight Howard Jameer Nelson JJ RedickHedo TurkogluGrant HillDarko Milicicor Gilbert Arenas Antawn Jamison Caron ButlerHill makes a difference because Orlando is weak at SG and SF. he can provide 15+ ppg and 5+ rpg with a few dimes, thats alot better then JJ Reddick
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Aug 12 2006, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Atlantic Division1. Nets2. Raptors3. Celtics4. 76ers5. KnicksCentral Division1. Bulls2. Pistons3. Cavaliers4. Pacers5. BucksSoutheast Division1. Heat2. Wizards3. Magic4. Hawks5. BobcatsNorthwest Division1. T Wolves2. Nuggets3. Jazz4. Sonics5. Trail BlazersPacific Division1. Suns2. Clippers3. Lakers4. Kings5. WarriorsSouthwest Division1. Mavericks2. Spurs3. Rockets4. Hornets5. GrizzliesEastern Conference Playoffs:1. Heat2. Bulls3. Pistons4. Nets5. Cavs6. Wizards7. Pacers8. Raptors (I believe)Western Conference Playoffs:1. Mavericks2. Suns3. Spurs4. TWolves5. Clippers6. Rockets7. Lakers8. HornetsFinals: Spurs and MavericksNBA Finals: Suns over HeatFinals MVP: Shawn MarionRegular Season Awards:MVP: LBJCoach of the Year: Scott SkilesDefensive Player of the Year: Ron ArtestRookie of the Year: Brandon RoyMost Improved Player of the Year: Kevin MartinSixth Man of the Year: uh, Delonte West maybe?</div>Forgive me man, but how do you have the Spurs and Mavs in the West Finals, but the Suns winning the Title? :g: And why is everyone all over the Suns, they still have yet to get out of the West, and just becuase they get Amare back, but he's already shown, by not being able to play on Team USA, that's he back to full speed, and there's no guaruntee that he ever will be.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Aug 12 2006, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, Im just saying that Tony could probably not name 10 players on our team without looking it up. He probably doesnt even know how we are going to play, and which players will play certain positions.</div>chris boshmo petepape sow?bargnanifordgrahamcalderonfred jonesnesterovickris humphriesthat's all i can name. your team is just full of crap. half of those were just added this offseason or i probably wouldn't know them.i can tell you Nesterovic's a C, Ford's a PG, Bosh is likely a PF(though could be C with rasho), mopete's a SG, bargnani's a faggot, graham's a SF, fred jones is backup SG probably, humphries is PF, calderon's PGI'd say that's a last place team. though I put the knicks below them in MY ranks cuz the knicks still won't get it together unless they start trading
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Aug 12 2006, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Forgive me man, but how do you have the Spurs and Mavs in the West Finals, but the Suns winning the Title? :g: And why is everyone all over the Suns, they still have yet to get out of the West, and just becuase they get Amare back, but he's already shown, by not being able to play on Team USA, that's he back to full speed, and there's no guaruntee that he ever will be.</div>There's like 2 people saying they'll win and the rest of the world saying the Mavs will return to the Finals. The Suns are a better team than you think and Amare has 9 months to get to where he should be and that's almost 2 years after the surgery. Either way he'll be better than Tim Thomas and last year without Banks(an actually back-up PG) Amare and TT they were on pace for 60 wins until Kurt went down. They aren't going to get worse for no reason. Adding Amare and Banks will help. They are one of the top teams in the league and should AT LEAST make the conference finals again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Aug 13 2006, 06:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Forgive me man, but how do you have the Spurs and Mavs in the West Finals, but the Suns winning the Title? :g: And why is everyone all over the Suns, they still have yet to get out of the West, and just becuase they get Amare back, but he's already shown, by not being able to play on Team USA, that's he back to full speed, and there's no guaruntee that he ever will be.</div>I couldn't agree more!! the list of players that HAVE NOT been able to come back from the same knee surgery is long and distingushed!!! lets see where he is in April? - my tip? the suns will be around 48 -55 win mark (at the end of the seasonbut Amare will struggle with staying healthy!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clangus @ Aug 12 2006, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I couldn't agree more!! the list of players that HAVE NOT been able to come back from the same knee surgery is long and distingushed!!! lets see where he is in April? - my tip? the suns will be around 48 -55 win mark (at the end of the seasonbut Amare will struggle with staying healthy!</div>1 thing's fo sho: Suns will be better than the Sonics... <_<Amare will be fine. He won't be as ferocious obviously, but will do decently enough to carry us far. Suns are definitely the strongest they've been under Nash. And he doesn't have to play as much, either.
Yes and to add on to what I said, his knee is 100% healthy. His problem is mental and he still needs to build the strength in his knee. During his very long time rehabbing he has also improved other parts of his game. No more dunks like against Adonal Foyle but he'll still play well.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>There's like 2 people saying they'll win and the rest of the world saying the Mavs will return to the Finals. The Suns are a better team than you think and Amare has 9 months to get to where he should be and that's almost 2 years after the surgery. Either way he'll be better than Tim Thomas and last year without Banks(an actually back-up PG) Amare and TT they were on pace for 60 wins until Kurt went down. They aren't going to get worse for no reason. Adding Amare and Banks will help. They are one of the top teams in the league and should AT LEAST make the conference finals again.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pmac34 @ Aug 12 2006, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>basically Dwight Howard Jameer Nelson JJ RedickHedo TurkogluGrant HillDarko Milicicor Gilbert Arenas Antawn Jamison Caron ButlerHill makes a difference because Orlando is weak at SG and SF. he can provide 15+ ppg and 5+ rpg with a few dimes, thats alot better then JJ Reddick</div>Why are you leaving out our supporting cast? And why did you leave in Orlando's supporting cast? We have the better team, more experience, leadership, and continuity. Hill wont do sh*t for the Magic. That injury will never go away and his numbers are just suffering. I say he averages 9-10 ppg or so. We have better role players than Orlando, too: Daniels, Songaila, Stevenson, Haywood.. you're definitely underrating them and you're not thinking how important they are to the Wizards.
Atlantic Division1. New Jersey Nets2. Boston Celtics3. Philadelphia 76ers4. New York Knicks5. Toronto RaptorsCentral Division1. Detroit Pistons2. Chicago Bulls3. Cleveland Cavaliers4. Milwaukee Bucks5. Indiana PacersSoutheast Division1. Miami Heat2. Washington Wizards3. Orlando Magic4. Atlanta Hawks5. Charlotte BobcatsNorthwest Division1. Denver Nuggets2. Minnesota Timberwolves3. Utah Jazz4. Seattle Sonics5. Portland TrailblazersPacific Division1. Phoenix Suns2. Los Angeles Clippers3. Sacramento Kings4. Los Angeles Lakers5. Golden State WarriorsSouthwest Division1. Dallas Mavericks2. San Antonio Spurs3. New Orleans Hornets4. Houston Rockets5. Memphis GrizzliesEastern Conference Playoffs:1. Miami Heat2. Detroit Pistons3. Chicago Bulls4. New Jersey Nets5. Cleveland Cavaliers6. Washington Wizards7. Boston Celtics8. Orlando MagicFinals: Detroit at MiamiWestern Conference Playoffs:1. Dallas Mavericks2. Phoenix Suns3. San Antonio Spurs4. Denver Nuggets5. New Orleans Hornets6. Los Angeles Clippers7. Sacramento Kings8. Houston RocketsFinals: Phoenix at Dallas NBA Finals: Detroit/Miami at DallasFinals MVP: Chauncey Billups/ Dwyane WadeRegular Season Awards:MVP: LeBron JamesCoach of the Year: George KarlDefensive Player of the Year: Gerald WallaceRookie of the Year: Brandon RoyMost Improved Player of the Year: Dwight HowardSixth Man of the Year: Antonio McDyess
Atlantic Division1. New Jersey Nets2. Boston Celtics3. Philadelphia 76ers4. Toronto Raptors5. New York KnicksCentral Division1. Detroit Pistons2. Cleveland Cavaliers3. Chicago Bulls4. Milwaukee Bucks5. Indiana PacersSoutheast Division1. Miami Heat2. Washington Wizards3. Orlando Magic4. Atlanta Hawks5. Charlotte BobcatsNorthwest Division1. Denver Nuggets2. Minnesota Timberwolves3. Utah Jazz4. Seattle Sonics5. Portland TrailblazersPacific Division1. Phoenix Suns2. LA Clippers3. Sacramento Kings4. LA Lakers5. Golden State WarriorsSouthwest Division1. Dalla Mavericks2. San Antonio Spurs3. Houston Rokcets4. New Orleans Hornets5. Memphis GrizzliesEastern Conference Playoffs:1. Miami Heat2. Detroit Pistons3. Cleveland Cavaliers4. Chicago Bulls5. New Jersey Nets6. Washington Wizards7. Milwaukee Bucks8. Orlando MagicFinals: Detroit PistonsWestern Conference Playoffs:1. Dallas Mavericks2. Phoenix Suns3. San Antonio Spurs4. LA Clippers5. Houston Rockets6. Sacramento Kings7. Denver Nuggets8. New Orleans HornetsFinals: Dallas MavericksNBA Finals: Dallas MavericksFinals MVP: Jaosn TerryRegular Season Awards:MVP: LeBron JamesCoach of the Year: Pat RileyDefensive Player of the Year: Bruce BowenRookie of the Year: Randy FoyeMost Improved Player of the Year: Dwight HowardSixth Man of the Year: Boris Diaw
Atlantic Division1. Nets2. 76ers3. Celtics4. Raps5. KnicksCentral Division1. Bulls2. Pistons3. Cavs4. Bucks5. PacersSoutheast Division1. Heat2. Wizards3. Magic4. Bobcats5. HawksNorthwest Division1. Nuggets2. Timberwolves3. Jazz4. Blazers5. SonicsPacific Division1. Suns2. Clips3. Kings4. Lakers5. WarriorsSouthwest Division1. Mavs2. Spurs3. Rockets4. Griz5. HornetsEastern Conference Playoffs:1. Bulls2. Pistons3. Heat4. Nets5. Cavs6. Wizards7. Magic8. CelticsFinals: Bulls over HeatWestern Conference Playoffs:1. Mavs2. Suns3. Spurs4. Nuggets5. Clippers6. Rockets7. Timberwolves8. KingsFinals: Mavs over SunsNBA Finals: Mavs over Bulls (I HAVE TO)Finals MVP: DirkRegular Season Awards: MVP: LeBronCoach of the Year: AveryDefensive Player of the Year: ArtestRookie of the Year: Tyrus ThomasMost Improved Player of the Year: No ideaSixth Man of the Year: Stack
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Aug 12 2006, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Atlantic Division1. Nets2. Raptors3. Celtics4. 76ers5. KnicksCentral Division1. Bulls2. Pistons3. Cavaliers4. Pacers5. BucksSoutheast Division1. Heat2. Wizards3. Magic4. Hawks5. BobcatsNorthwest Division1. T Wolves2. Nuggets3. Jazz4. Sonics5. Trail BlazersPacific Division1. Suns2. Clippers3. Lakers4. Kings5. WarriorsSouthwest Division1. Mavericks2. Spurs3. Rockets4. Hornets5. GrizzliesEastern Conference Playoffs:1. Heat2. Bulls3. Pistons4. Nets5. Cavs6. Wizards7. Pacers8. Raptors (I believe)Western Conference Playoffs:1. Mavericks2. Suns3. Spurs4. TWolves5. Clippers6. Rockets7. Lakers8. HornetsFinals: Spurs and MavericksNBA Finals: Suns over HeatFinals MVP: Shawn MarionRegular Season Awards:MVP: LBJCoach of the Year: Scott SkilesDefensive Player of the Year: Ron ArtestRookie of the Year: Brandon RoyMost Improved Player of the Year: Kevin MartinSixth Man of the Year: uh, Delonte West maybe?</div> :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: I'm sorry but I just find that very funny.
Its great seeing you guys putting us out of the playoffs, after all our roster says so. But again, you are underestimating the triangle and phil jackson. I guarentee you, we will make the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Aug 13 2006, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Its great seeing you guys putting us out of the playoffs, after all our roster says so. But again, you are underestimating the triangle and phil jackson. I guarentee you, we will make the playoffs.</div>I say the Lakers finish with a good record again but the Western Conference is just so good this season. I might switch the Hornets with the Lkares. I'm still thinking about it.
Where's the love for Kevin Martin He broke out last season and really made an impact for the Kings during the playoffs and I think this is the season that Kevin Martin breaks out and I think he'll average around 18 ppg for the Kings next season and I'm telling you, the Sacramento Kings are going to the Western Conference Finals next season...you heard it here first.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RashadzMcCantz @ Aug 13 2006, 02:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm telling you, the Sacramento Kings are going to the Western Conference Finals next season...you heard it here first.</div>That's not what you said before...and you said the Nuggets would have a better record than the Spurs? WHAT?
