<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">No, but Im sayin hes right on there level... the stats dont lie, the playoff positioning doesnt lie, the #s in the playoffs dont lie... give the man credit...</div> Your acting as if I didnt even put him on the top ten list... Just b/c i didnt put in the top 5 doesnt mean he doesnt belong there..Its just my opinion. Allen Iverson has a much worse supporting cast and Philly plays solid ball every yr, dont take it personal, you obviously have a bias C'mon ..lets not argue haha
It's very tough leaving KG out of the top 5, especially after his MVP type season. He lead the TWolves to a top 4 seed in the West and also lead the league in double doubles, and triple doubles. Iverson is a great player, but he is in the East and if the Phillies played out West they would be fighting for an 8th seed. KG is more efficient on offense and is the better defender.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chickensoup:</div><div class="quote_post">Your acting as if I didnt even put him on the top ten list... Just b/c i didnt put in the top 5 doesnt mean he doesnt belong there..Its just my opinion. Allen Iverson has a much worse supporting cast and Philly plays solid ball every yr, dont take it personal, you obviously have a bias C'mon ..lets not argue haha</div> if you think this is acting harsh then you have no idea... Allen Iverson has a far worse supporting cast? Since when is KG playing with the Kings role players, or a Kobe Bryant... I might be bias, but everyone who knows a think botu basketball has KG in their top 4 or 5, maybe you should look at all the other posts, and see that I am not the only one that thinks that... Philly plays solid ball? KG on your team... doesnt matter the supporting cast, doesnt matter east or west, youre in the playoffs... PERIOD.
Maybe we can be different from all these other boards and kill some of this "who is better than who" crap, because it gets old. I know it is the off season, but I am sure you guys can be a little more creative. KG is top 5, no questions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Outsider Sports:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe we can be different from all these other board and kill some of this "who is better than who" crap, because it gets old. I know it is the off season, but I am sure you guys can be a little more creative.</div> I completly agree with your comments above. Here is mine: 1. Tim Duncan- Back to back MVP. He has no flash, he just gets the job done. Boring is good when you want to win championships. 2. Kobe Bryant- "He is one of the best because he works harder than the rest." That saying reminds me of a basketball legend when it comes to work ethic. 3. KG- He is 7 feet tall and can play all 5 positions. 4. Jason Kidd - The best PG in the game today. He is a team player and is one person along with Duncan who people should watch if they want to get better at basketball. Fundamentally sound. 5. TMAC- He is like Kobe in terms of athleticism however he doesnt have the experience and mid range game that Kobe has. People can argue all day long about these two however I wont. 6. SHAQ- He is the most dominating player in the game when healthy. I said dominating not the best. 7. Dirk- This guy can play 4 positions and can shoot your lights out from anywhere on the court. You combine those two things and you have one hard person to guard. 8. Paul Pierce- I think he might be one of the best clutch players in the game right now. A pure shooter in my books. Unbelievable range. 9. AI- He is small however this guy is fast and has some spunk. He is not afraid to get in the lane with the big boys. If he had a little more height he would be higher on my list. 10. Chris Webber - When he is healthy he is one dominating player however he needs to stay healthy for his team to get anywhere.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dexter:</div><div class="quote_post">I completly agree with your comments above. Here is mine: 1. Tim Duncan- Back to back MVP. He has no flash, he just gets the job done. Boring is good when you want to win championships. 2. Kobe Bryant- "He is one of the best because he works harder than the rest." That saying reminds me of a basketball legend when it comes to work ethic. 3. KG- He is 7 feet tall and can play all 5 positions. 4. Jason Kidd - The best PG in the game today. He is a team player and is one person along with Duncan who people should watch if they want to get better at basketball. Fundamentally sound. 5. TMAC- He is like Kobe in terms of athleticism however he doesnt have the experience and mid range game that Kobe has. People can argue all day long about these two however I wont. 6. SHAQ- He is the most dominating player in the game when healthy. I said dominating not the best. 7. Dirk- This guy can play 4 positions and can shoot your lights out from anywhere on the court. You combine those two things and you have one hard person to guard. 8. Paul Pierce- I think he might be one of the best clutch players in the game right now. A pure shooter in my books. Unbelievable range. 9. AI- He is small however this guy is fast and has some spunk. He is not afraid to get in the lane with the big boys. If he had a little more height he would be higher on my list. 10. Chris Webber - When he is healthy he is one dominating player however he needs to stay healthy for his team to get anywhere.</div> How does t-mac not have a mid range game? he hits shots from everywhere. I seen all the magic games this year and he does have a mid range game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DirtySouth:</div><div class="quote_post">How does t-mac not have a mid range game? he hits shots from everywhere. I seen all the magic games this year and he does have a mid range game.</div> I never said he didnt have a mid-range game. I said he doesnt have a mid-range game like Kobe. Kobe has probably the best mid-range game in the league right now.
Its nearly impossible for me to pick the top 5 in exact order. Simple fact is that they are all great players. Any of them could be debated @ #1. <u>Top 5</u> Tim Duncan KG Tmac Kobe Shaq <u>6-10</u> J Kidd Dirk AI J Oneal Paul Pierce Close seconds- Steve Francis, Ben Wallace, C Webb
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dexter:</div><div class="quote_post"> Here is mine: 1. Tim Duncan- Back to back MVP. He has no flash, he just gets the job done. Boring is good when you want to win championships. 2. Kobe Bryant- "He is one of the best because he works harder than the rest." That saying reminds me of a basketball legend when it comes to work ethic. 3. KG- He is 7 feet tall and can play all 5 positions. 4. Jason Kidd - The best PG in the game today. He is a team player and is one person along with Duncan who people should watch if they want to get better at basketball. Fundamentally sound. 5. TMAC- He is like Kobe in terms of athleticism however he doesnt have the experience and mid range game that Kobe has. People can argue all day long about these two however I wont. 6. SHAQ- He is the most dominating player in the game when healthy. I said dominating not the best. 7. Dirk- This guy can play 4 positions and can shoot your lights out from anywhere on the court. You combine those two things and you have one hard person to guard. 8. Paul Pierce- I think he might be one of the best clutch players in the game right now. A pure shooter in my books. Unbelievable range. 9. AI- He is small however this guy is fast and has some spunk. He is not afraid to get in the lane with the big boys. If he had a little more height he would be higher on my list. 10. Chris Webber - When he is healthy he is one dominating player however he needs to stay healthy for his team to get anywhere.</div> First off- Kidd ahead of Shaq? LOL. Shall we compare?? Kidd: 18.7ppg, 2.2spg, 8.9apg, 6.3rpg...Great all-round player or Shaq: 27.5 ppg, 2.4bpg, 3.1apg, 11.10rpg...Most dominant I would take Shaq. Payton almost has as good of stats as Kidd and also Jason plays in the east. Second issue, KG plays all 5 positions? Anybody can play all 5 positions, yet it is how well you play them..but KG cannot play point guard.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">First off- Kidd ahead of Shaq? LOL. Shall we compare?? Kidd: 18.7ppg, 2.2spg, 8.9apg, 6.3rpg...Great all-round player or Shaq: 27.5 ppg, 2.4bpg, 3.1apg, 11.10rpg...Most dominant I would take Shaq. Payton almost has as good of stats as Kidd and also Jason plays in the east. Second issue, KG plays all 5 positions? Anybody can play all 5 positions, yet it is how well you play them..but KG cannot play point guard.</div> it isnt bout stats...all u do is compare stats...kidd has led his team to the finals 2 years in a row wit a not so great supportin cast...shaq has had help...im a huge laker fan n i would take shaq over kid ne day but kidd can do more than shaq can
Alot of you guys act as if Stats are everything, J. Kidd is one of the best point guards b/c of the impact he has on his team. The leadership, the way he runs the floor, you trying to tell me Payton is better than J. Kidd, no way. And J.Kidd did his thing when he played for the Mavs and Phoenix, by the way both of those teams are in the WEST.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chickensoup:</div><div class="quote_post">you trying to tell me Payton is better than J. Kidd, no way. </div> I never said Payton was better than Kidd. Reread my comments. Sure, Kidd has led his team to the finals 2 straight years, and who has he played against? The Pistons? The Celtics? Pacers? All teams that the Spurs, Lakers, Wolves, Kings, Mavs would beat and maybe sweep, which the Lakers did back in 2002. Shaq can also pass well out of the post, so he has alot of the skills Kidd has and is a much bigger defensive anchor. He is raising his free-throw % and is the most dominant. Would you build your franchise around Shaq or J.Kidd??! Kidd meanwhile, still has no "j" and put him on the Suns where they used to be..would they make it to the Finals? Nope.
Not to mention Shaq is double-teamed every game while you can stick 1 defender on Kidd and he still might have a bad performance..
NBA top 10: 1. KG 2. T-mac 3. Tim Duncan 4. Kobe 5. AI 6. SHAQ 7. JKidd 8. Webber 9. Pierce 10. J.Oneal or E.Brand Yeah, tim duncan's got 2 straight mvp's but Kevin Garnett has made so much more of an impact, no question, if KG dont get 03-04 MVP, the NBA's lost it... 4 sho....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting iLLuZi0n:</div><div class="quote_post"> Yeah, tim duncan's got 2 straight mvp's but Kevin Garnett has made so much more of an impact, no question, if KG dont get 03-04 MVP, the NBA's lost it... 4 sho....</div> You're contradicting yourself. Duncan has two straight MVPs and two finals MVPs, yet hasn't made as much as an impact as Garnett? I dont' think so.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting slamduncan21:</div><div class="quote_post">You're contradicting yourself. Duncan has two straight MVPs and two finals MVPs, yet hasn't made as much as an impact as Garnett? I dont' think so.</div> Last season, regular season, Kevin had more of an impact on his team and the L... he was the true MVP, and any crediable anyalsis would tell you that...
kg won't get regular season mvp this year, because his team is stacked now. i think it's basically shaq, duncan, kidd, and tmac as the main candidates. here's my top 10 players order 1. td 2. kg 3.tmac 4. shaq 5. kobe 6. kidd 7. dirk 8. paul pierce 9. c webb, when healthy 10. franchise
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">Last season, regular season, Kevin had more of an impact on his team and the L... he was the true MVP, and any crediable anyalsis would tell you that...</div> Credible analysts have also said that other than Shaq, Duncan is the best player in the league. I don't see how you can have any more impact than winning a championship.
