And I actually agree with Heatfan on Kobe's D.He didn't D up to his potential this year. He floated around too much on D and his man cut to the basket to score on a number of occassions. Still good D, but not 1st team D. He got that out of reputation.As for a replacement, I'm too tired to think too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 7 2006, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Raja :no1: even so, you can say Raja is better and Kobe is second behind. Does that still not mean he is a one of the best perimeter defenders in the league?</div>oh yea flopping all over the place makes you a great perimeter defender..but i wont deny that raja plays good defence minus the flopping...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 7 2006, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Raja :no1: even so, you can say Raja is better and Kobe is second behind. Does that still not mean he is a one of the best perimeter defenders in the league?</div>You were supposed to keep quiet. :bat: Kobe is a good defender though and probably should have been on an all-defensive team.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 7 2006, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>oh yea flopping all over the place makes you a great perimeter defender..but i wont deny that raja is a good defender he plays pretty good defence minus the flopping...</div>Flopping doesen't make him any worse. It's smart to flop. I used to hate floppers but when you have them on your team you love them so much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Podium @ Jul 7 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm telling you though, Rodman vs. Artest is must see TV.</div>No, Rodman vs. Bill Russell.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Podium @ Jul 7 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm telling you though, Rodman vs. Artest is must see TV.</div> yea could they guard eachother without starting a fight? im jk that would be a fun matchup to watch they both play fierce defence and are agressive on both ends of the court the only difference is that artest is a better scorer and rodman is a better rebounder
I don't know what my top 5 are... I don't even know if this one ever happened butManute Bol vs. Shawn BradleyIf there is footage, I must have it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 8 2006, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess he hasn't. Jordan played Bird and Magic plenty of times.</div>No. Sorry, didnt think that ever happened in the Finals..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 8 2006, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen. You know the All defense team is just a publicity contest. Those guys play defense all the time. Kobe just plays defense when he wants to.</div>It's a publicity contest? come on, stop just pulling stuff out of your ass. Kobe got those bc he deserved them. When he played with Shaq, he was one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. He didn't have to worry about scoring as much.
Even asked Phil Jackson. Kobe did not play consistent defene. Best defender of the era? That's f*cking bullsh**.
Kobe was a great defender every night a few years back. Now he is inconsistent bc he has to worry about scoring so much. I never said anything about him being the best of the era, i disagree with that guy, but you can't say all-defensive team is a popularity contest. That's just ridiculous.
Has Kobe not been one of the top perimeter defenders in this era? Doesn't exactly mean the best just one of the best, which is true. Everyone knows Kobe can lock down ANYONE when he needs to and he has shown he can before in the playoffs.
Bias vs Jordan in the NBA86 Celts vs 96 Bulls - The 2 greatest teams everShaq vs KareemJordan vs KobeBias vs GarnettDuncan vs McHale
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 8 2006, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>bullsh**. Kobe hardly plays consistent defense anymore. Only when he chooses to...</div>Your right, they just give him first team all defense because he only desides to play defense when he wants to Lebron vs. MJJohn Stockton vs. Pete MaravichShaq vs. Wilt the StiltLakers during their 3 peat against the Bulls in their primeBill Russel vs. Karl Malone
You guys are all naming some great NBA ones but how about College??? It didnt say it has to be just NBA MatchupsBill Russell vs. ShaqKareem vs. Shaq'86 Celtics vs. '96 Bulls'06 George Mason vs. '66 Texas Western'92 Duke vs. '66 Kentucky
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 8 2006, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Even asked Phil Jackson. Kobe did not play consistent defene. Best defender of the era? That's f*cking bullsh**.</div>since when did the award consist of being the best defender of the era?anyway kobe got better defensively this year and was the best defender at the 2 guard
I was referring to Heatfan who called Kobe the best defender of his era. Thats bullsh**. I can name 5 or 6 better defenders then him off the top of my head.Yes, I stand by what I said. He is inconsistent defensively, and sometimes puts no effort into playing D. Thats what Phil Jackson even said. Phil said that Kobe's defense has declined every year since he started coaching him. That happens though. Usually when you turn into an offensive superstar you cant put the full effort into D all the time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 8 2006, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was referring to Heatfan who called Kobe the best defender of his era. Thats bullsh**. I can name 5 or 6 better defenders then him off the top of my head.Yes, I stand by what I said. He is inconsistent defensively, and sometimes puts no effort into playing D. Thats what Phil Jackson even said. Phil said that Kobe's defense has declined every year since he started coaching him. That happens though. Usually when you turn into an offensive superstar you cant put the full effort into D all the time.</div>He isn't one of top defenders of his era? For the last time, Artest and Bowen are FORWARDS. Go ahead and name 5-6 better defenders at the GUARD position better then Kobe. When he was in the three-peat his defense was spectacular and even now where his defense isn't as solid he can still lock down anyone at any given time. Most of the board isn't agreeing with me for no reason, only someone who is a Kobe hater will say he isn't a top perimeter defender.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Podium @ Jul 8 2006, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm telling you though, Rodman vs. Artest is must see TV.</div>Yep that be great to see.Also like someone said Iverson Vs IsiahLebron Vs MJOscar Robinson Vs Chris Paul when he will be in his prime :HAHAHA: (Sorry I had to add this) LOL
Um... Kobe would put in 210% if he was guarding MJ or any notable all star. That would be the greatest match up ever.edit: Kobe usually plays his best d against superstarts anyone remember what he did to tmac? or what he did to redd? or what he did to carter?
