Zach Collins and his return to the Blazers: ‘I’m definitely not rushing back’

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  1. wizenheimer

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    this should explain it for you:

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    If Meyers Leonard can roll out of bed and keep getting $10M a year contracts, Zach is going to get more than the minimum or close to it, and more than one year. I think he'll probably be healthy this summer, be doing workouts, film it like everyone else to show how hard workign they are, his agent will talk to teams and they will offer him a decent deal. Portland probably will low ball him, and he will leave.
     
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    PS: I would absolutely bring him back for a decent price. Would not overpay him of course, but he is still so young. I think guys who are still at an age that College juniors and seniors should be kept (Simons, Collins, etc).
     
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    Well, you make some good points. However, I will be stunned if Zach gets Meyers's money after not playing for two straight years.
    But I think you are right, Portland will low ball him and he will leave.
     
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    Meyers should never have gotten Meyers money.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Meyers should never have gotten ANY money.
     
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    So are you saying Riley and Spoelstra should be fired?
     
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    Want me to link his stats in Portland?
     
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    I miss Collins. I miss his defense. I miss his attitude. We need him. As for free agency, I’d still rather invest in him than Kanter.
     
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    That article doesn’t speak well for the Blazers medical and conditioning staff. Too much load too soon after the first ankle surgery.
     
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    Hmmmm where have I seen this before? It's almost like it's Deja Vu.
     
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    Bigs feet and ankles always take a beating in basketball but the guys who play above the rim always has the worst results...weight coming down from higher up on the joints....it's why Zach Randolph, Enes Kanter and Paul Milsap or Lamarcus Aldridge have long careers...they don't play highlight reel ball...and those injuries are so common in sports it's hardly a medical staff case of negligence...it's wear and tear. I quit the long jump in high school track because it was messing with my heels and that was hurting my long distance running ability....I ran the mile as my first track sport...won the state district gold medal my freshman year with a 4:36 mile...my best time
     
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    As much as everyone liked to bust on Meyers, over his career he's been statistically better that Zach in almost every way, even in advanced metrics, and it's not even particularly close. Most of all, Meyers shoots about considerably better from 3 and from the line.

    Additionally, while he's had his share of injuries, it's not on Zach's level, and Meyers has shown himself to be a guy who is a positive influence to his team even if he's not playing.
     
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    By their age 22 season Zach has higher rebounding, scoring and assist averages than Meyers. For his career he averages more steals and blocks. I’m not sure ive ever heard Zach isn’t good with teammates and the locker room. Zach in his career is 32% from 3, meyers 39%. That is essentially the only metric he has an advantage over ZC. Not sure what you’re talking about.
     
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    when Meyers was 22, he had a 15.8% rebound rate, Zach's best is 12.7%. Meyers scored 19.7 points/100-possesions; Zach's best was 18.3
     
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    Maybe zachs higher averages are because he played more because he wasn’t dogshit at that age like Meyers
     
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    I didn't say Zach wasn't good with teammates and the locker room. I said Meyers was a positive influence. You always see Meyers encouraging the team, talking to the younger guys. Saying Meyers is better than Zach in that respect isn't a knock on Zach unless maybe you think giving Meyers his due in any capacity is a shot at Collins.

    Meyers was the guy who always could agitate players on the other team, get in their heads, get them off their game. Zach who always is losing control of his emotions, making a mistake and compounding it with a silly foul.

    Anyway, going back to the original point, the numbers don't support that Zach is a much superior player to Meyers and would command a bigger contract, not even considering the injuries.
     

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