Zach Collins' old tweets as a kid

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  1. Minstrel

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I'd agree that that's an important thing. It is important that you aren't malicious towards gay people. But you should also give thought to not fostering a usage of a term that makes the lives of (some number of) gay people more uncomfortable.

    You don't have to agree with me or anyone here right now. But at least think about it, whether the value of using "gay" to mean lame or stupid (when you can use those terms directly) is actually high enough that it's worth helping keep a term usage in place that does negatively affect other people, people you don't want to hurt. Even if you only use it with friends, as someone else said--those people will also use it with their pool of friends (which may not be fully overlapping with your own) and that pool of friends will also use it, etc. Each person who uses it helps foster its legitimacy. You do have influence, and it's not limited to just your immediate friends.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    You asked me what I wanted from you. So, I told you. I am not trying to impose my will on you, I was honestly and earnestly answering your question.

    Yeah, it does effect me. My daughter is gay and got beat up, threatened and bullied in high school. When people use the word gay as an insult it makes it ok to insult gays. Open your eyes to the big wide world out there beyond your small circle of like minded friends. You might actually learn something and it might make you a better person.

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    Then what are we still talking about here? I just find it unfortunate because this is the only forum I'm on and now people have this weird view of me so yeah to an extent I care but at the same time I'm not losing sleep.
     
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    Alright I get it
     
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    I have a weird view of everyone who posts on here. Stop trying to snowflake yourself.
     
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    And yes, this thread has moved far far away from Zach Collins so I moved it to the OT section.
     
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    Look, it's pretty simple. Whenever someone does something completely moronic my brain says "how retarded"

    That's just me being honest. If I said I could stop thinking that I'd be lying.

    Now, I try never to say it in public but I'm not perfect either. Same with the word gay.

    I'm really careful about not saying that. If a pretty obviously gay guy hits my car when he's texting and driving it will likely slip out. Sorry.

    I'm fat still and if a fatter guy hit my car while texting and driving I'd call him a fat fuck.

    I definitely feel like we should all be more civil to each other but that's not likely.
     
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    Okay so it's a personal issue of yours. I'm not the one harassing your daughter nor would I ever do these things to a gay person. You're being ignorant thinking this somehow comes back around and affects her. You don't fucking know me you're just going off this small sample size of shit I said but I guarantee you if you knew me you wouldn't be spewing this bullshit. Don't fucking treat me like I'm some idiot. We all can learn and grow as people, maybe you will learn that too.
     
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    We are not, and have not been talking about you being homophobic. You keep bring that up as some sort of red herring.

    We are talking about perpetuating the negative use of the word gay as an insult. That's not the same thing as being homophobic.

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    For fucks sake guys look, another person that kinda thinks like me. Let me guess, you kinda have a sense of humor to deal with the dark shit in your life like me? Maybe. Wow I just can't believe it
     
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    Being aware of, and trying to personally curb, language that can hurt people you don't have any intention of hurting (or don't want to attack for that particular characteristic) is what's important. None of us are perfect--working towards an ideal is good, even if that ideal isn't ever fully met.
     
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    Perpetuating the use of the word gay as an insult has far reaching consequences. If you continue to use the word gay in a negative context, you are part of the problem - whether intentional or not.

    BNM
     
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    Actually he's saying the exact opposite that you are.

    He's saying that the words have negative meanings but sometimes he thinks them or uses them. You're saying you use them but are only in their non offensive meanings.
     
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    It's just annoying because most people live their lives being fake about shit acting a certain way and I come along with an honest opinion and the best part is, I'm not even hurting gay people but man let's pile up on bitchface91 for a bit and feel good about ourselves today.
     
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    That's great
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Actually, it's not. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

    BNM
     
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    No shit I tried telling you that quite a few posts ago but your own personal problems got in the way of that
     
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    There's an old line that says, "People don't 'grow up'; they just learn how to act in public." The implication being that in order to function in society, civilized people curb their base instincts for their own and others' benefit.

    What you call "being fake," I call being mature.
     
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    Right...

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