Zach Collins underwent revision surgery today to repair a left medial malleolus stress fracture.

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  1. Scalma

    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Well see how long he’s out for but if he misses the entire season I’d be surprised if the team gave him a QO.
     
  2. Natebishop3

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    Well unfortunately you just mentioned two things that are viewed as investments. If we invest a large portion of our salary cap, or a high draft pick on a player, you're going to view that player based on his ROI. Right now Zach has not had a good ROI. Draft picks and salary cap space can be invested in other directions. It's not his fault where he was picked, and it's not his fault that he has been injured, but them's the breaks.
     
  3. Wizard Mentor

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    It is nonsensical for those using ROI ignore the statistical nature of the investments (risk/reward) - Mutual funds exist for just that reason. In basketball, that's one of the reason player comparisons are so compelling.
     
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    watch how quickly we extend him.

    i had high hopes but this is just a waste of time at this point.
     
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    Worst case he accepts the qualifying offer, has a very good 2021-2022 season and leaves us as a UFA
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Almost everyone hated the pick at the time. The risk did not outweigh the reward. We took a tall, skinny, young big man who was extremely raw and wasn't even starting for his college team. We spent a top 10 pick and we got second round value.
     
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    Man that's the kind of shit that Olshey thinks that gets him to bid against himself and offer a guy like Zach a long term deal that may end up as nothing but dead cap space.
     
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    I don't agree, but that's not the point. Only an aggregation of decisions matters. In fact, "results-oriented" thinking is well known to be trash.
     
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    Yeah that pick, especially moving up for it, was a bit of a head scratcher but I didn't know enough about Zach or the other bigs I liked (Giles, Bam, and Ivan Rabb) to be too pissed. The only players I liked in that draft were Josh Jackson, Lauri Markkanen and Bam... so I was in wait and see mode for Zach and we just never really got to see because of injuries.
     
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    He has but just saying Nurk also get in foul trouble but nobody questions that because what he does in other catorogry of the game. But bigs get in foul trouble due to cover up from our guards. Plus Zach was doing better not committing silly fouls.
     
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    Different injury. Collins has a stress fracture.
     
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    Sam Bowie Part Deux?
     
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    Possible be I would say that's a stretch though if the blazers was smart they would file for a injury exception on him. But don't know how that would effect the cap.
     
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    Luckliy we didn't take Zach with the second pick just ahead of the best guy to ever do it.
     
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    Yeah, I was going to say because it’s a completely different injury but reading that dude’s angry posts toward Collins, I didn’t think he’d care. His Collins narrative is set in stone.
     
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    Dude if he could land us a Buck Williams I’d be ECSTATIC.
     
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    Right now out those players Bam the only has produce. Markkenen had down season last year but still can't defend.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    At some point, if you're a big man, don't you beg the Blazers not to pick you just to preserve your leg health?
     

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