Zach Lowe and Amin Elhassan think we don't make the playoffs

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  1. riverman

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    Wouldn't surprise me a bit if their Vegas bookies set this up to increase their chances at betting on the Blazers for a bigger profit. It's an old trick
     
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    Rhal Well-Known Member

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    I have no clue why I thought both said that they dont' see anyone of the top 8 from last year missing the playoffs. Listened to it again and nope not in there at all. Guess thats what I get for reading NBA articles and listening to a podcast as the same time.
     
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  3. Mediocre Man

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    They probably saw Aldridge's comments about him taking more threes.
     
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    I think you may be right. Doc's ability as a coach (and player) is his leadership ability. But as an x/o's guy.....he is just average IMO.
    I do think he is a good coach, but as you say, he is no swami.
     
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    I think he's overrated too. If it wasn't for the coup that brought the Celtics KG and Ray Allen, it's doubtful anyone would know who Doc Rivers is anymore. Doesn't hurt to have players like Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin and others in your holster.
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think a lot of people agree with you. Doc and Ainge were really on the hot seat until Kevin McHale gifted them Garnett. They had drastically tanked to try to get Oden or Durant, but they failed to obtain either of them. I seriously think that team was bound for another year or shit, and one or both of them would have been fired.
     
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    First, calling what Pops has over Stotts an "edge" is like calling Mt. Everest a hill.
    Second, Doc is the most overrated coach in the league now that D'Antoni has been completely exposed as a hack.
     
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    Doc is overrated as an x's and o's guy but he is a motivator and players coach. Just like Mark Jackson.
     
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    Mills fills in great and they keep winning without Parker. That's just the way this team is.

    Doc won COTY in Orlando. He was also a famous player from his days with the Knicks. I wouldn't have forgotten who he is. Avery Johnson hasn't coached in 7 years. Have you forgotten about him?
     
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  10. Natebishop3

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    Doc won COTY because he lucked into a young Ben Wallace and he was in the leastern conference.
     
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    Cotton Fitzsimmons has more CotYs than Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach combined (yes, the award started in 1962).

    The Squad of Mikes (d'Antoni, Schuler, Brown and Dunleavy) all have as many CotYs as Larry Bird.

    Popovich is tied for #1 (he has 3) with Pat Riley....and Don Nelson.

    I won't even talk about the Sam Mitchells, Don Chaneys, Del Harrises, etc...Let's just agree that COTY is probably not the end-all metric for coaching quality (like, say, MVP or ASG appearances might be for a player).
     
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    Doc was a known player, not a famous one. He wasn't anything special.

    His best years were with the Hawks anyways.

    And winning the COTY means shit. Mike Schuler won COTY...big fucking deal.
     
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  13. KingSpeed

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    But you remembered him and THAT's the point!
     
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  14. julius

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    sometimes you are too literal for your own good.
     
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  15. KingSpeed

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    You remember all of these guys. Point made. I was arguing that even if he hadn't won in 2008, he'd still be remembered. Never said Doc is a good coach. I think he is though.
     
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  16. Natebishop3

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    Eric, you or I could have coached that Celtics team with Garnett, Allen, and Pierce all still at the end of their prime. Add in Rondo and a few other really good role players and that team coached itself.
     
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    Also, I don't think we (who post on a message board) are your average fans. So you, brian, nate or I knowing Mike Schuler won the COTY, or that Sam Mitchel was once a player on the Yippin' Puppies, isn't the same as the average fan knowing who Doc Rivers was had he not coached the Celtics *after* they traded for..

    actually fuck it, reasoning with you isn't worth it. You're right.
     
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    who the fuck is doc rivers? Sounds like a name in a western movie.

    What are yalls playoff picks?

    Blazers
    Spurs
    Mavs
    Clips
    GS
    Okc
    Memphis
    Someone else
     
    3RA1N1AC, Oct 15, 2014
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  19. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

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    Clippers
    Thunder
    Spurs
    Blazers
    Grizzlies
    Rockets
    Warriors
    Nuggets
     
    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94, Oct 15, 2014
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  20. OneLifeToLive

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    I don't think they have them figured right. But I don't think Canzano does either.

    But let's say for instance this is indeed the case. Most of us thought this team had a good offseason. How many of you will be saying the same thing if they do miss the playoffs?
     
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