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  1. ant

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    Can't let this one pass without butting in. There are many many examples of natural hybridizations. Birds do it. Many bees do it. Harvester ants do it. Red-tailed and blue monkey do it. Lots of fish do it. Lizards do it. Mice do it. There are several examples from every group in the animal kingdom.
     
  2. THE HCP

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    On thought #2, I would hook up with a HOT monkey in a heartbeat! I wonder what a half monkey 1/4 Mexican baby would look like?
     
  3. tlongII

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    I think you should ask DaRizzle to post a picture of himself.
     
  4. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Uh, no that's not exactly what I meant.



    Basically you argued that India was an example of a "healthy" vegetarian culture which obviously isn't true. That's what I call serious pwnage! :lol:
     
  5. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Actually, it was true. MARIS changed the debate to veganism, which is not what I was talking about.
     
  6. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    Sorry, but citing a country with half of it's population classified as "dangerously anemic" as being a "healthy" example doesn't work for me.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    The vegetarian cuisine in India is healthy and balanced. The people who choose to stick to a vegan diet (which is a huge number, for religious reasons) aren't taking advantage of that balanced diet, because they are cutting out a large part of it.

    So, that 50% number isn't terribly relevant. Those who choose to be vegetarian, not vegan, in India can eat a balanced diet with no effort. They don't need to go to special stores or search for dietary supplements or special recipes. All the restaurants and standard recipes of the cuisine allow for eating a varied menu without eating meat.
     
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    You're inferring that the Indian culture has a healthy diet when that clearly isn't true. Maybe you should have said "sub-culture" or something like that. You've been pwned and you just have to own up to it.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I wasn't saying anything about the "average" Indian diet, or whatever you mean by "the Indian culture" having a healthy diet. I said that various societies, like India, have developed perfectly balanced and healthy vegetarian diets. Vegetarians in such societies can eat as healthily as people who eat healthy omniverous diets in the US.

    That was the totality of my claim, and it's entirely true. People who choose not to eat a vegetarian diet (omnivores, vegans) are obviously not included in that. I was responding to the claim that vegetarian diets are intrinsically less healthy because they can't be balanced. That's untrue.

    I wasn't claiming that India is a more physically healthy society than the US, or that the average diet in India is more healthy than the average diet in the US.
     
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    Not vegans who eat a balanced diet. Protein is protein is protein. It's incredibly easy to have a balanced vegetarian or vegan diet if you educate yourself about food and what our bodies actually need.

    Wasn't Carl Lewis a vegan back in his Olympic days?
     
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    Quoted for Minstrel's benefit. pwnage
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Yes, and that quote of mine is exactly right. They have developed a balanced, healthy diet that doesn't include meat. Not everyone in the population takes advantage of it.
     
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    ...or eat their young. Your argument is null and void. You lose. Owned. Pwned. I accept your apology, just drop me a PM.
     
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    ???

    Eating their young and nurturing other species both happened. I am supposed to apologize for what? Not listing every possible biological outcome?

    Forget it.
     
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    You can indeed get protein from vegetables. If you want to eat 2 cups of, say, Kidney Beans to make up for 3 oz of beef or chicken. I hope you like those beans, because a 6oz or 8oz portion of meat is pretty typical making it so you'd need to eat 4-5 cups of those suckers.

    And for Minstrel, the reason people have eaten meat for all this time is that a small amount makes you feel full, thanks to the protein.
     
  17. Minstrel

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    That's probably true also, though quite a bit of protein also comes from other common things like milk, nuts and bread.
     
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    He said NUTS!
     
  19. Denny Crane

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    Nuts are about the same as kidney beans. It takes 5 cups of whole wheat to equal 3 oz of beef.
     
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    Yes, but you can eat all of these things. You don't have to eat just vegetables, or just nuts. It's fairly easy to get plenty of protein through dairy, breads, vegetables, eggs and nuts, in combination.
     

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