zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after attack.

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  1. The_Lillard_King

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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Basically it is Obama's fault when it comes to the ambassidor, but it was the military (and not Obama) who is responsible for killing Bin Laden.

    :D
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Yes, I'm sure they just let them die... :drumroll:

    In fact, Obama probaby told everyone directly, do not help these people. Because this close to an election, what could be better than dead Americans.

    Do I need green font?
     
    noknobs, Oct 25, 2012
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    My understanding is they moved a number of assets all around the area but did not commit any to a rescue or defense of the embassy.

    These included the movement of troops, ships offshore, commando teams, etc.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ponse-questioned-in-wake-deadly-libya-attack/
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    They did just let them die.

    But I'm sure Obama had plenty of practice for this type of situation from his days as a community organizer.

    Do I need a green font? :)
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    must spread more rep around.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Given your "serious dislike" for our president, I would say use the green font. :)
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    They did just let them die.

    But I'm sure Obama had plenty of practice for this type of situation from his days as a community organizer.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    I think that's bullshit.

    I don't need green font.
     
    noknobs, Oct 25, 2012
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    If it weren't election season, this would be a total non-issue.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    are you fucking kidding me?

    Nixon is in the know on a break in at the watergate, and it cost him his job..the killer was telling the lies

    barry through his poor choice of action, alllowed four to be killed, then lies for weeks aboiut it...
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    An American Ambassidor murdered in a foreign country? A non-issue? You've got to be kidding.

    Maybe you forgot the green font.

    Do you agree that they shouldn't have tried to save those American's lives? Who do you think should be held accountable for the lack of an attempt to do so?
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Actually, I think it's exactly the opposite. If this weren't an election season, the media would be all over this story. I think they're backing off for fear of hurting Obama's chances.

    If Bush had done something like this, tried to gloss over a terrorist attack that killed an American ambassador and three other citizens, there would have been a media frenzy and the liberal message boards would be going ballistic.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    They did just let them die.

    They didn't lift a finger to save them. They watched the whole thing on TV, video taken from a drone overhead.

    How else would you describe it?
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    I didn't know a drone overhead = not doing anything.

    A response team was there quickly from what I can tell, the 2nd email even said that. What evidence am I missing?

    You really think the Secretary of State and the intelligence community were just chilling, watching the drone footage and eating popcorn? Give these people at least a little credit. They're pretty good at what they do.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    [video=youtube;2k_LMTNLZXc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2k_LMTNLZXc[/video]
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Adding to what Rice said, I think people need to remember that these emails were not an intelligence assessment. The email saying Ansar al-Sharia claimed responsibility was based on their Facebook page and on Twitter, which is not in itself evidence. And the same group denied its involvment the very next day. This was one of many reports the WH was getting, should they have believed them all, or just this one cherrypicked email? That's the very reason a thorough investigation is necessary. It's very common for more than one group to claim responsibility after something like this.

    Anyway that's where I'm coming from. Hopefully the accountability review board will give us a clearer picture.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Imagine if the Chinese had acted 2 hours after NATO bombed their embassy in Belgrade.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    It's not. There was a live feed and a distress signal put out. The two SEALs who died were in a safe house 1 mile away and responded. Nobody else answered the distress call.

    It's a complete failure, and we as Americans demand answers for it. Who made the decision to not send in support? We knew it was happening, and many people were watching it live.

    So yes, he did "just let them die". Even worse, he then lied about some video for two weeks to try and cover his ass.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    I think that it's certainly a reasonable position to say that there's a need for a full review of all of the relevant information after the fact in order to determine exactly what happened and who's responsible. I don't fault the Obama Administration for what they're doing in that respect. Whether or not the US had sufficient assets close enough to have done something about it while the attack was underway is a question that needs closer examination. Similarly, the decisions made prior to the attack to reduce security despite repeated requests from Stevens for MORE security is something that needs to be investigated.

    I think there's going to be a lot of blame to pass around once a thorough investigation is done, but what I think is really disturbing in terms of the election was the continued attempt for a week or two afterwards to cast the attack as having been a mob action in response to the anti-Muslim YouTube video. There never was any indication that there was something that supported that line of baloney. It seems to have been a deliberate attempt to keep a lid on this event until after the election. There's been a whole lot of lying going on from the Obama Adminstration about this and that's what I find most odd and most disturbing.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att


    repped
     
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