Zion NBA Trade Value

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I wouldnt Give up Dame for Zion. I would never ever give up an established Star for a #1 no matter how good I think they might be. People thought Wiggins was a generational talent too, and Minnesota traded Love for him and basically just got worse, which they werent that good to begin with.
     
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    He made a grand gesture to you.

    You're in the minority of forum members who don't respond to tagging or alerts.
     
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    No they didn't. He was the consensus #1 but folks weren't talking that generational talk.
     
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    The first link, though, supports TBFs point--that people were calling Wiggins a "once-in-a-generation talent", and referring to him as "the best since Lebron".

    However, they were saying that before he played at Kansas, not because of his work in college, as is the case with Zion. Wiggins is more comparable to Barrett.
     
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    I know that, but there's more to it. Here's some more.
    https://www.nbadraft.net/andrew-wiggins-next-franchise-talent
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...awks-andrew-wiggins-lawrence-arrival/2447225/

    I mean there is a lot out there on his pre-draft stuff...

    My point though is that every soon to be #1 pick especially when they're pretty clear cut the #1 guy gets a LOT of hype, and heck it's deserved, but last year people were saying Ayton was Like Tim Duncan and KG combined, he's good but no, and I wouldn't have traded Dame for him.

    This year it's Zion and the guy looks to be really freaking good, and people are filling the airwaves with hyperbole like they always do. I still wouldn't give up an established top 5-10ish player in the NBA for him though.
     
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    Jordan wasn't considered the no-doubt top prospect. Probably, he should have been, but the league still considered big men more important. Olajuwon was the big prospect in the draft--the coin flip was "for Olajuwon."
     
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    I wouldn't trade Nurk for him. Not even now while he's injured.
     
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    I remember the discussions about what other teams would have been willing to give the Blazers for the #1 pick in the Oden draft.

    Man, I wish KP would have taken one of those offers.
     
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    Well, I mean, with full hindsight, I'd rather he just drafted Kevin Durant.
     
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    Sure, that too.

    My point is that even seemingly sure-fire picks sometimes don’t work out. Giving up proven stars for guys who haven’t played a minute at the NBA level is an inherently risky proposition.
     
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    Ideal would have been somehow convincing the Sonics to trade up that one spot, get Durant and then whatever else.

    I still think, at the time, Oden was the right pick. I think few NBA people who were being honest would say otherwise.
     
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    You forgot Sam...
     
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    How so? Bowie was the guy the team that lost the coin flip took. I said the coin flip was basically considered for the right to select Olajuwon...that's how locked in he was as the top prospect in that draft.
     
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    There's certainly a risk. There's also a reward too. If that "sure-fire" prospect pans out (and of the ones I can recall since Olajuwon, the only one that didn't pan out was Greg Oden), you have a franchise superstar and extremely cheap salaries.
     
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    regardless of how great zion looks vs the college kids, coming into the NBA with that type of game he's not going to have the same level of ownership imo.

    I think he mostly reminds me of a larry johnson, big nate robinson, etc

    he's 6-7 which is a tall SG, avg SF or tweener PF. he definitely has the explosiveness currently the rely purely on youth and power to push his 130kg around, but his game will need to mature and develop at a quicker pace than his raw athletic ability normalises.

    he could have a very good 5-7yrs which could help a lot of teams, but i know people are calling him a generational talent, i just dont see it being likely as of yet. hes gonna have some highlights for sure, and if he ends up with NY he's going to get the run of the team and the city, but unless they recruit hard they aint going to be doing jack shit that matters.

    this early, no way id trade Dame, Trae etc for him.

    i can tell you one thing tho, as far as hobby collectability goes, the dude is gonna be thru the roof with RC hype and there will be HUGE prices paid by speculators. The hobby had a massive bump this season with Lulu getting so much love and Trae too.
     
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    Arenas went in on Zion a couple days ago.
    I'm not sure I agree with this take, but I do love the shot at Blake Griffin.
     
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