So If Memphis takes Rubio, is Conley available again?

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Neither Conley or Rubio is a career backup... I say Portland comes in and takes Conley off Wallace's hands for cheap :cheers:
 
Fuck Memphis.

They put 9 million back on our cap out of spite. Let both of them cause team chemistry issues.
 
If they take Rubio - there will be someone that will take Conley off their hands. It would be stupid if we are not in the running - if KP likes him and he is available for parts Portland is willing to let go.

How about Conley for Sergio - they can have the Spanish points fighting to feed Marc Gasol.

Make it so.
 
While I hated it at first since Conley wasn't playing well, if it really took him to get Greg playing his best then just freaking do it. He's turned into a good young player anyways so if all else he's a good asset. If they still want Travis, hell, kill two birds with one stone.
 
Would KP be comfortable entering the season with Blake, Conley and Bayless all vying for minutes? We might need to consolidate Blake and/or Bayless unless we're comfortable with Conley or Bayless riding serious pine.
 
Maybe a Sergio, Outlaw, and a pick for Conley. I'd be all over it.
 
Samuel said:
Would KP be comfortable entering the season with Blake, Conley and Bayless all vying for minutes? We might need to consolidate Blake and/or Bayless unless we're comfortable with Conley or Bayless riding serious pine.
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Dude, Conley would not be a backup here. He is much better than Blake. The numbers don't indicate that because of the coaching change but Conley really started thriving in the 2nd half of the season. It isn't even a question of who would be the starting PG.
 
Ok, how about this?

Sergio, Outlaw and #32 for Conley and 3 million each season for the nexat three seasons to pay PA back for he Miles Situation.


Fuck them. How could any of you want to give them any talent?
 
AmirIcon said:
Maybe a Sergio, Outlaw, and a pick for Conley. I'd be all over it.
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Eh ... and cash, and Bayless. That's the minimum I see them taking with the way Conley improved his game in the second half of the season -- the guy is going to end up being a pretty damn good point guard.

Blake/Conley/(Beaubois, Collison, et al.)
Roy/Rudy
Nic/Martell
LMA/?/Freeland
Greg/Pryzbilla

Looks pretty OK to me.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Ok, how about this?

Sergio, Outlaw and #32 for Conley and 3 million each season for the nexat three seasons to pay PA back for he Miles Situation.


Fuck them. How could any of you want to give them any talent?
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Because some of us would like to see the roster improved and solidified. I sure hope KP doesn't let emotional thinking cloud his ability to consider deals.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Ok, how about this?

Sergio, Outlaw and #32 for Conley and 3 million each season for the nexat three seasons to pay PA back for he Miles Situation.


Fuck them. How could any of you want to give them any talent?
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Would you do it if they threw Nate into the deal?
 
Nikolokolus said:
Eh ... and cash, and Bayless. That's the minimum I see them taking with the way Conley improved his game in the second half of the season -- the guy is going to end up being a pretty damn good point guard.
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It's possible but it's hard to say because it was only half a season and they are in a position of weakness. They have the #2 pick and it's clear that only a PG (Rubio) would be the guy to take unless they were to trade the pick. I would do Bayless and Outlaw for Mike Conley. I would probably even throw in a 2nd rounder. Bayless has better physical tools but Conley is a true point with a pretty damn good jump shot these days. His arrival would ressurect Greg Oden more than any other instance.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Because some of us would like to see the roster improved and solidified. I sure hope KP doesn't let emotional thinking cloud his ability to consider deals.
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Bingo. What Memphis did should have nothing to do with us improving our roster.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Fuck them. How could any of you want to give them any talent?
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I want the Blazers to be as good as possible. I would certainly hope that the Blazers aren't carrying some silly grudge against a team and passing up the best possible deals because of it.

Ed O.
 
Freshtown said:
Neither Conley or Rubio is a career backup... I say Portland comes in and takes Conley off Wallace's hands for cheap :cheers:
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I disagree.

With hard work and perseverance Conley could eventually be a reliable backup for several teams, although not ours of course.

Rubio is a poor man's Sergio Rodriguez.
 
AmirIcon said:
Dude, Conley would not be a backup here. He is much better than Blake. The numbers don't indicate that because of the coaching change but Conley really started thriving in the 2nd half of the season. It isn't even a question of who would be the starting PG.
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:crazy:
 
AmirIcon said:
It's possible but it's hard to say because it was only half a season and they are in a position of weakness. They have the #2 pick and it's clear that only a PG (Rubio) would be the guy to take unless they were to trade the pick. I would do Bayless and Outlaw for Mike Conley. I would probably even throw in a 2nd rounder. Bayless has better physical tools but Conley is a true point with a pretty damn good jump shot these days. His arrival would ressurect Greg Oden more than any other instance.
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How are they in a position of weakness? If they draft Rubio their phone is going to be ringing off the hook from GMs wanting to make a play for Mike Conley -- it's not as though we're Mumphis' only trading partner.

As for why I kind of like Conley, it's his ability to get into the lane and his great first step, his improving jump shot is just gravy.
 
MARIS61 said:
I disagree.

With hard work and perseverance Conley could eventually be a reliable backup for several teams, although not ours of course.

Rubio is a poor man's Sergio Rodriguez.
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Too bad Sergio is a poor man's Sergio Rodriguez too. :ghoti:
 
Nikolokolus said:
How are they in a position of weakness? If they draft Rubio their phone is going to be ringing off the hook from GMs wanting to make a play for Mike Conley -- it's not as though we're Mumphis' only trading partner.
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That's the point though. The whole league knows that they are likely to trade Conley which puts them in a position of weakness amongst other teams, not necessarily us only. If they draft Rubio, other GMs know that they are looking to trade Conley.

As for why I kind of like Conley, it's his ability to get into the lane and his great first step, his improving jump shot is just gravy.
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I more than kind of like him. He would be terrific and as you said, can slice into the lane and hit a very good % of three pointers. Not only this, it would give Greg Oden extra motivation to dominate and a guy who knows how to get Greg going. No longer would this team suffer from McMillan's incoherence at getting Greg Oden the basketball, it's going there via Mike Conley either way.
 
AmirIcon said:
That's the point though. The whole league knows that they are likely to trade Conley which puts them in a position of weakness amongst other teams, not necessarily us only. If they draft Rubio, other GMs know that they are looking to trade Conley.
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If teams give Memphis shitty offers for Conley they'll just take him off the table and roll with a fantastic 1-2 punch of he and Rubio for as long as they need to. It's all about supply and demand; there are multiple teams competing to offer something they feel will pique Memphis' interest -- those suitors are competing with each other like they're at an auction, whomever offers the best deal presumably will get him (unless they pull another Kwame for Pau).
 
could someone please confirm this: the trade exception can only be traded for a player whose salary is less than $2,912,823. correct?

if so, that sucks. I was thinking Outlaw + Sergio + cash for Conley, and then the trade exception for Greg Buckner's contract.
 
number 10 said:
could someone please confirm this: the trade exception can only be traded for a player whose salary is less than $2,912,823. correct?

if so, that sucks. I was thinking Outlaw + Sergio + cash for Conley, and then the trade exception for Greg Buckner's contract.
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That is correct.

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This is thinking a little outside the box, but maybe the Blazers don't renounce Frye and use him in a sign and trade ... in this case, you use Outlaw, sergio and cash (or picks) for conley and then you do a separate deal with Frye for Buckner (assuming that was the price of admission to get Conley).

In this scenario, the Grizzlies get a player they supposedly have coveted in Outlaw, a decentish backup point guard to play behind Rubio, and 6'11" guy who can probably compete with Arthur, Warrick, and Gasol for minutes in the front court.

In this situation, the Blazers keep their mid-level and trade exceptions instead of cap space, which can be used to go out and get some veteran backup help at the 4 and maybe the 3.
 
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Nikolokolus said:
It's all about supply and demand; there are multiple teams competing to offer something they feel will pique Memphis' interest -- those suitors are competing with each other like they're at an auction, whomever offers the best deal presumably will get him (unless they pull another Kwame for Pau).
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This is exactly right. Memphis is only at a disadvantage if they are dealing with one potential trade partner and have to make a deal. Even if they must trade one of Conley or Rubio (which they don't, this off-season), if multiple teams are interested, Memphis is no longer in a weak position. As long as the most recent offer is below "fair value," another team will have motivation to out-bid. This dynamic will drive the ultimate, winning trade offer up to around "fair value."

Of course, that's true of an open auction, where all bids are known. This is a closed auction, where only Memphis will really know all the bids, so disinformation would also change the dynamic.
 
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