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As the Donald Trump for president phenomenon continues, even the most jaded of political prognosticators notices. It’s hard not to.


In Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate, Trump continued to dominate the airwaves before, during and after the event.

Yes, there were some flaws in his execution. After all he was being attacked from all sides. Being the front-runner, it was expected.

So Trump demonstrated his lack of knowledge of vaccines relating to autism as pointed out by Dr. Ben Carson and his extremely limited foreign policy ability.

But will it be enough to derail his commanding lead? I say no.

If we are brutally honest, allow me to suggest there’s a little Trump in all of us. What’s appealing is that “The Donald” has the guts to say what we won’t, but what so many think regarding immigration, international business and politics.

Wendy Maurer, the Republican Rock Hill candidate for Stafford County supervisor knows. She sponsored a Ukrainian student in 2011, helping her get an H-IB visa. She can relate to the expensive, emotional and legally challenging aspects of immigration.

“Trump’s answers on immigration were the most comprehensive,” Mauer concluded. “Looking at all aspects of the immigration challenge, we do need to stop the hemorrhaging of illegal immigrants.”

Profound words from a worthy candidate who would bring needed compassion and intellectual capacity to the Stafford board.

Barbara Cledes, a Stafford resident off Ole Forge Road, suggested that Trump continues to set the tone for all conservative candidates and gave a solid performance. “His boldness is what continues to impress we who are tired of establishment politicians,” she stated.

Trump’s poll numbers continue to suggest the nation appreciates a man whose Make America Great Again mantra hits home.

What isn’t appreciated are the actions of former Secretary Hillary Clinton during the Benghazi debacle and her email cover-up. The mega question is will she still be the Democratic nominee?

Trumpmania should but isn’t totally embraced by establishment conservatives, whose lack of leadership cost Republicans Virginia’s top three offices in Richmond and both U.S. Senate seats.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who I must admit was my first choice on the Republican side of the house, has been a disappointment and continues to be defined by Trump as low energy.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Sen. Ted Cruz and Carson were less than impressive during the debate. And former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Sen. Rand Paul gave equally dismal performances.

Trump’s been called a narcissist, an egotist and a RINO, but still his numbers climb.

I’m beginning to think the only person who can derail the Trump train is former First Lady Nancy Reagan. Ask former Senate candidate Oliver North. He found out the hard way.

Why I appreciate and could even vote for Trump if he is the nominee, is the tough love he firmly delivers to the nation regarding immigration and support of our military. Yes….build the fence.

Ignore idiots like UNIVISON’s Jorge Ramos who does not represent millions of hard working proud Americans of Hispanic descent who have fought for our nation, like my uncles in WWII and my Vietnam brothers or my son serving today.

We, who have legally established businesses while having compassion for the undocumented, we, like Trump, resent the illegal immigrant who feloniously violates our laws, rapes or murders our children and, in my case, my godson who was murdered by an illegal immigrant drug runner decades ago.

Yes Donald Trump…you are speaking for me. Keep on talking.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Really don't get why legal Latinos support illegals in the US. Makes them look like the working class or worse.

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Really don't get why legal Latinos support illegals in the US. Makes them look like the working class or worse.

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I agree. I think the legal immigrants will make a stand and support trump just for this reason.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Not like there's anything wrong with the working class, but it must get annoying being lumped with Gardners and stuff like we joke around with HCP

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[riverman]

So under Trumps proposed witch hunt for illegals, will he pass out armbands for the legal and give them perks for turning in the illegals? Hitler did this with cooperative Jews in Germany. Then if you lose your ID or get robbed and go to the cops, will you be deported because you look hispanic?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So under Trumps proposed witch hunt for illegals, will he pass out armbands for the legal and give them perks for turning in the illegals? Hitler did this with cooperative Jews in Germany. Then if you lose your ID or get robbed and go to the cops, will you be deported because you look hispanic?

You left out that Trump is calling for mass genocide.

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[magnifier661]

So just yesterday I had the cleaning ladies at my house. I was watching Trump on CNN and they were cleaning the room where was in.

I saw one of them look up at the tv and then say something in Spanish, then the other looked up and you could tell them that they were bothered.

I said "are you upset I am watching this?" They replied "Do you like him?" I replied "yes I really do". I said "you don't like him?" And they replied "no we don't". I asked "is it what he said about Mexico?" And they said "yes". I told them I can turn it off if you want but they said "it's okay".

They started watching and said "he sounds really good and doesn't seem bad". They brought the other workers in and all started watching it. After a bunch of conversation they told me "hey we really like him!" I said, "would you vote for him?" They said "yes, he seems like he really cares about us! We want jobs and he wants to give us jobs"

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Just stop the illegals from continuing to come over. If they are already here, you caneither send the ones back once you become aware (itins are a start from tax returns where the addresses are located) or give them amnesty and move forward.

 

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So under Trumps proposed witch hunt for illegals, will he pass out armbands for the legal and give them perks for turning in the illegals? Hitler did this with cooperative Jews in Germany. Then if you lose your ID or get robbed and go to the cops, will you be deported because you look hispanic?

Let's ask a true Mexican hero...

Cesar Chavez: Longtime foe of illegal immigration
By Bryan Fischer

This week has been Cesar Chavez week at Boise State University, as our local campus celebrates the legacy of one of the three men to have his birthday celebrated as an official holiday in California (the other two: Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King, Jr.). Chavez, who died in 1993, is being portrayed as a champion of illegal immigration when the truth in fact is a bit different.

According to a 2006 article in The American Conservative by Steve Sailer, although Chavez's union, the United Farm Workers, did manage to raise wages significantly for stoop laborers from 1965 to 1981, those gains have largely disappeared for one reason: illegal immigration.

Chavez himself was a third generation American citizen and a Navy veteran. Although he has become over time virtually the patron saint of the Reconquistamovement to reclaim all of the southwest for Mexico, in his prime he was an ardent opponent of illegal immigration and actively fought against the importation of strikebreakers from Mexico.

Chavez understood the basic laws of supply and demand — the greater the supply (of labor), the less the demand (and hence the lower the wages). Just as the founder of the American Federation of Labor Samuel Gompers was an influential voice calling for the immigration-restricting law of 1924, so Chavez openly and actively opposed illegal immigration because it crippled his ability to unionize farm workers and increase their wages.

In 1979 testimony to Congress, Chavez complained, "... when the farm workers strike and their strike is successful, the employers go to Mexico and have unlimited, unrestricted use of illegal alien strikebreakers to break the strike. And, for over 30 years, the Immigration and Naturalization Service has looked the other way and assisted in the strikebreaking. I do not remember one single instance in 30 years where the Immigration service has removed strikebreakers. ... The employers use professional smugglers to recruit and transport human contraband across the Mexican border for the specific act of strikebreaking..."

In 1969, Chavez actually led a march to the Mexican border to protest illegal immigration, accompanied by Sen. Walter Mondale and Ralph Abernathy, whom alert readers will recognize as Martin Luther King's successor as head of the Southern Leadership Conference.

Chavez demanded that the federal government close the border, routinely reported suspected illegal immigrants to immigration officials, and put his brother in charge of Minutemen-like border patrols which on more than one occasion resulted in the beatings of intruders.

The collapse of the Mexican economy in 1982 sent a flood of illegal immigrants north of the border, driving down wages, and making border enforcement politically problematic. As one economist noted, "We have essentially privatized the immigration policy of this country, and left it in the hands of California's growers."

While cheap labor does reduce the cost of, say, strawberries, it does so only minimally. This economist noted that perhaps 7 percent of the price paid by shoppers for strawberries actually goes to pickers. Meanwhile, citizen taxpayers are forced to pick up the tab for workers' medical care and social services and their children's schooling. The National Academy of Sciences estimated in 1997 that an immigrant without a high-school degree ultimately costs America $100,000 more than he contributes.

As the UFW declined into irrelevance in the 1980s, Chavez began to back mass immigration as a way of maintaining political visibility.

Yet the Latin-American electorate remains ambivalent about illegal immigration. According to a 2002 survey by the Pew Hispanic Center, 48 percent of registered Latino voters felt that there were "too many" immigrants in the U.S. while only 7 percent thought there were "too few."

 

[dviss1]

So just yesterday I had the cleaning ladies at my house. I was watching Trump on CNN and they were cleaning the room where was in.

I saw one of them look up at the tv and then say something in Spanish, then the other looked up and you could tell them that they were bothered.

I said "are you upset I am watching this?" They replied "Do you like him?" I replied "yes I really do". I said "you don't like him?" And they replied "no we don't". I asked "is it what he said about Mexico?" And they said "yes". I told them I can turn it off if you want but they said "it's okay".

They started watching and said "he sounds really good and doesn't seem bad". They brought the other workers in and all started watching it. After a bunch of conversation they told me "hey we really like him!" I said, "would you vote for him?" They said "yes, he seems like he really cares about us! We want jobs and he wants to give us jobs"

Hilarious....

 

[riverman]

So just yesterday I had the cleaning ladies at my house. I was watching Trump on CNN and they were cleaning the room where was in.

I saw one of them look up at the tv and then say something in Spanish, then the other looked up and you could tell them that they were bothered.

I said "are you upset I am watching this?" They replied "Do you like him?" I replied "yes I really do". I said "you don't like him?" And they replied "no we don't". I asked "is it what he said about Mexico?" And they said "yes". I told them I can turn it off if you want but they said "it's okay".

They started watching and said "he sounds really good and doesn't seem bad". They brought the other workers in and all started watching it. After a bunch of conversation they told me "hey we really like him!" I said, "would you vote for him?" They said "yes, he seems like he really cares about us! We want jobs and he wants to give us jobs"

They were expecting a tip mags, hope you gave them one

 

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They were expecting a tip mags, hope you gave them one

Nope. They were closely watching and trump's townhall speech really resonates with him. I think it's funny how you or anyone else that isn't Mexican or Latino think you can think for them. It seems those that are legal will support this.

 

[riverman]

Nope. They were closely watching and trump's townhall speech really resonates with him. I think it's funny how you or anyone else that isn't Mexican or Latino think you can think for them. It seems those that are legal will support this.

I was married to a Latina for a decade, dated her on the border in San Ysidro when I was young, just went to visit some of her family this summer..no offense to your house cleaners, I'm sure they are well intentioned and informed..glad you know my story.No offense to them. I was joking dude. Trump sucks! I'm on a mission to discredit the asshole any chance I get.

 

[riverman]

In answer to the thread question..I say Trump can't get the Latino vote and don't think he has much support within their community

 

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I was married to a Latina for a decade, dated her on the border in San Ysidro when I was young, just went to visit some of her family this summer..no offense to your house cleaners, I'm sure they are well intentioned and informed..glad you know my story.No offense to them. I was joking dude. Trump sucks! I'm on a mission to discredit the asshole any chance I get.

As long as we all know it was rhetoric we can move on

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

When the mexican workers from the home depot I hire to choke me in the shower hear the word trump, they choke me a little harder.

This is why I support Trump.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

They were expecting a tip mags, hope you gave them one

Or they were waiting for him to whip out his ding dong and get ready for a gangbang

 

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Or they were waiting for him to whip out his ding dong and get ready for a gangbang

Then they find out the racist stereotype of Asians having a small dong is actually true.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Then they find out the racist stereotype of Asians having a small dong is actually true.

That's ok as long as you stay in the vag with them. Rumor has it Latino men like the butt play

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

That's ok as long as you stay in the vag with them. "Rumor has it" Latino men like the butt play

fixed that for you.

 

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-trump-driving-latinos-seek-citizenship-vote/

GUTIÉRREZ: TRUMP DRIVING LATINOS TO SEEK CITIZENSHIP TO VOTE

The day following the second GOP presidential debate Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-IL) again railed against Donald Trump for his comments on immigration, saying they are inspiring immigrants to apply for citizenship.

“That’s right, apply for citizenship and you can vote for whoever you want to vote for, and you could even vote against the guy who called your whole ethnic group rapists, murderers and drug-dealers,” Gutiérrez said in a speech Thursday on the House floor.

“That kind of ugly, un-American attack is moving people to apply for citizenship and moving citizens to become voters,” he added.

The Illinois lawmaker has been among Trump’s most vocal critics in Congress, frequently taking to the House floor to condemn the GOP frontrunner for his positions on immigration and statements about criminal immigrants.

Thursday, Gutiérrez argued that Trump’s “racism” is leading immigrants to seek out his office’s assistance in apply for citizenship and registering to vote.

“Appeals to racism and immigrant bashing are creating a predictable backlash in the neighborhoods of my district in Chicago,” he said.

“People are calling and coming into my office asking what they can do to push back and very specifically, those who are not yet citizens are asking how to become citizens and those who have not registered to vote are asking how to get that done,” Gutiérrez added.

On Saturday, the congressman is slated to hold a workshop at the Instituto del Progreso Latino to offer immigrants help in understanding and applying for citizenship.

He noted that to date his office has assisted more than 50,000 people become U.S. citizens.

And, for those immigrants worried about the cost of citizenship, Gutiérrez stressed that they could apply for a fee waiver to become a citizen for free.

“Not only will we help people understand the process, we will help them figure out if they qualify for fee waivers so that the $680 application fee that people have to pay is not a barrier,” he said.

Gutiérrez’s call for immigrants to become citizens and vote against Trump and the Republican Party coincides with the Obama administration’s launch of a new campaign to encourage the 8.8 eligible legal permanent residents in the U.S. to become citizens.

“I am looking forward to meeting the hundreds of people who will be working towards their citizenship this Saturday in Chicago,” Gutiérrez concluded Thursday. “The way we respond to racism is voting and in Latino and immigrant communities, we are getting that message loud and clear.”

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Haha. Great, you know what's going to happen? People will see how fucking hard all these illegals are making it for the rest of any immigrant to get to this country the right way and they'll be anti-illegal soon enough.

Illegals are basically people cutting in line. Wait in line like the rest of us, son.

 

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Haha. Great, you know what's going to happen? People will see how fucking hard all these illegals are making it for the rest of any immigrant to get to this country the right way and they'll be anti-illegal soon enough.

Illegals are basically people cutting in line. Wait in line like the rest of us, son.

I think people up North don't see the real problems of immigration. SoCal is a shithole filled with illegals

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I think people up North don't see the real problems of immigration. SoCal is a shithole filled with illegals

In what ways are illegals making SoCal a shithole? Just wondering.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Lol inb4 someone says "we're a land started by and for immigrants" as if that has any real significance today when in comes to ILLEGAL immigration. We also once had slavery in our country and women couldnt vote till what just under 100 years ago? Should we also be okay with that now?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

You can't weed out the bad from the good. What Trump says he wants to do is impossible. But stuff like this isn't uncommon -- this happened this summer in Montana by a legal 'DREAMer':

 

[magnifier661]

In what ways are illegals making SoCal a shithole? Just wondering.

Well here's one example.

My friend was just rear ended by an illegal without car insurance. Who does he sue?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

In what ways are illegals making SoCal a shithole? Just wondering.

The public schools are like 75% latino now. Kids who can barely speak English are slowing down the learning. Basically its go pay 10 grand for public school or end up in a shitty ass school. Then the next representative ethnicity are blacks and they get in fights with the Latinos. So that's that.

The illegals that come here are generally people who are poor/uneducated but able bodied or they don't have the education or financial resources to do it legally. Basically, they are lower class working people. They live in shanty towns, huts, and impoverished areas. They live in poor dilapidated neighborhoods in Mexico and they come with no money. The areas they end up settling in in the US eventually end up being like what they left behind because that's all they know and that's how they live.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Well here's one example.

My friend was just rear ended by an illegal without car insurance. Who does he sue?

The car dealership/previous owner that sold a car to an illegal immigrant

 

[MarAzul]

Hilarious....

Kind a cool what Trump wants to give away. Jobs! Damn! I like that, beat the hell out of Phones and food stamps.