Local Sports Media

[Blazer_Steve]

I dont get it, I have been a Blazer fan since I can remember. I was born in 71' so I say about 76' I started remembering. I grew up playing basketball in HS, JR. College, and Walked on for D1 school. I have seen a lot of ball. When I critique something it doesnt mean I am a bandwagon fan or bad mouthing the team, shoot I have been waiting since 77' for a ring. I really like Dame, I just think alot of people are blinded by the .09 and think hes the piece to build around. To me he is a 3rd wheel in a championship not the drive line. I get so frustrated with the local sports media and them ignoring you when your opinion is not theirs. Just because most of them feel they have to be homers and not actual say what is wrong. Sorry everyone I had to get that off my chest . Go RIPCITY. Team CJ.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Appreciate the post. I don't think anyone should question someone else's fandom. Just a minor quibble though Dame is only at top 30 player (that is what 3rd wheel is)? I would say he is top 20 player but not top 10. That puts him as great 2nd option in my book. Plus you have consider a team like GS who gobbles up 4 top 30 players so top 2 options aren't easy for every team to come by.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

Appreciate the post. I don't think anyone should question someone else's fandom. Just a minor quibble though Dame is only at top 30 player (that is what 3rd wheel is)? I would say he is top 20 player but not top 10. That puts him as great 2nd option in my book. Plus you have consider a team like GS who gobbles up 4 top 30 players so top 2 options aren't easy for every team to come by.

Keep Rollin -

I am saying Dame is a 3rd wheel on a Championship Roster. He can not be a Lead Dog or a Batman. Being the Biggest CJ fan out there I dont think CJ could be that either. But I can see CJ being a Point on a Championship Team with a Low Post guy and Athletic Wing. CJ has improved his Defense greatly in only really 2 years of playing time also so I see still major growth there. Is there major growth still left for Dame????

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I dont get it, I have been a Blazer fan since I can remember. I was born in 71' so I say about 76' I started remembering. I grew up playing basketball in HS, JR. College, and Walked on for D1 school. I have seen a lot of ball. When I critique something it doesnt mean I am a bandwagon fan or bad mouthing the team, shoot I have been waiting since 77' for a ring. I really like Dame, I just think alot of people are blinded by the .09 and think hes the piece to build around. To me he is a 3rd wheel in a championship not the drive line. I get so frustrated with the local sports media and them ignoring you when your opinion is not theirs. Just because most of them feel they have to be homers and not actual say what is wrong. Sorry everyone I had to get that off my chest . Go RIPCITY. Team CJ.

Lillard is the best player on the team, if we get two players that are better then him I would happily call him the 3rd wheel.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

Lillard is the best player on the team, if we get two players that are better then him I would happily call him the 3rd wheel.

Your opinion Sly is greatly respected. I think CJ is best player on team with more growth potential.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Keep Rollin -

I am saying Dame is a 3rd wheel on a Championship Roster. He can not be a Lead Dog or a Batman. Being the Biggest CJ fan out there I dont think CJ could be that either. But I can see CJ being a Point on a Championship Team with a Low Post guy and Athletic Wing. CJ has improved his Defense greatly in only really 2 years of playing time also so I see still major growth there. Is there major growth still left for Dame????

1 team wins a championship every year. You know how hard it is to do that? 29 other teams don't. There are only 4 teams a year who are truly contenders. It is very tough to be one year and and year out.
I am going to say if we need 2 players better than Dame to win (which maybe we do, maybe we don't) then that just isn't going to happen. It is one a billion chance we get two via trade or draft. It just unfortunately isn't likely to happen. I hate to say it but prepared to be disappointed in that case.

I think Dame is a 2nd wheel easily (as I said) but we would need a #1 for sure (and a #3 if you are trading CJ) which is easier to get but still hard.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Your opinion Sly is greatly respected. I think CJ is best player on team with more growth potential.

Okay, so our 5 wheeled cart has only 2 good wheels. Who in the local media is disagreeing with that?

 

[Blazer_Steve]

1 team wins a championship every year. You know how hard it is to do that? 29 other teams don't. There are only 4 teams a year who are truly contenders. It is very tough to be one year and and year out.
I am going to say if we need 2 players better than Dame to win (which maybe we do, maybe we don't) then that just isn't going to happen. It is one a billion chance we get two via trade or draft. It just unfortunately isn't likely to happen. I hate to say it but prepared to be disappointed in that case.

I think Dame is a 2nd wheel easily (as I said) but we would need a #1 for sure (and a #3 if you are trading CJ) which is easier to get but still hard.

Are we in this to win rings or are we in this to be happy making the playoffs? You think Dame and Cousins can beat the Cavs. Warriors, Spurs? NO!!!! How do we get to rings????

 

[Portland2014]

the 2nd wheel in Golden State is Stephen Curry, how in the world can Lillard be compared to him???

Lillard can be compared to their 3rd or 4th wheels, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson and you can make the argument that even those 2 are better than Dame.

I really loved Lillard until i saw his low ceiling, now i hate him because of the narrative around him that pretend him to be a 1st/2nd option on a championship team when he clearly isn't.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

Okay, so our 5 wheeled cart has only 2 good wheels. Who in the local media is disagreeing with that?

Local media starts to ignore you when you done agree with their opinion. I am ok with people an their opinion, mine is just an opinion, I might not be right. But why when ppl dont agree with your opinion your an out cast?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Are we in this to win rings or are we in this to be happy making the playoffs? You think Dame and Cousins can beat the Cavs. Warriors, Spurs? NO!!!! How do we get to rings????

1. That is a question for Portland Brass.

2. No probably not.

3. Get incredibly lucky.

What I can tell you is it doesn't happen over night. This isn't a 1 or 2 year process to get better than other teams right away.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

the 2nd wheel in Golden State is Stephen Curry, how in the world can Lillard be compared to him???

Lillard can be compared to their 3rd or 4th wheels, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson and you can make the argument that even those 2 are better than Dame.

I really loved Lillard until i saw his low ceiling, now i hate him because of the narrative around him that pretend him to be a 1st/2nd option on a championship team when he clearly isn't.

That is the point I made above. GS has 4 top 30 players. Most other teams are lucky to have 2 top 30 players. Some only have 1 (or even none). We are lucky that we don't have none at least.

Of course no team's number two guy is going to compare to to GS's number two guy. It is an anomaly.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Okay, so our 5 wheeled cart has only 2 good wheels. Who in the local media is disagreeing with that?

Local media starts to ignore you when you done agree with their opinion. I am ok with people an their opinion, mine is just an opinion, I might not be right. But why when ppl dont agree with your opinion your an out cast?

 

[Minstrel]

Are we in this to win rings or are we in this to be happy making the playoffs? You think Dame and Cousins can beat the Cavs. Warriors, Spurs? NO!!!! How do we get to rings????

By getting a generational superstar or two top-ten guys. Give us an idea of how Portland should accomplish that.

 

[Portland2014]

Do you know who could have been a 1st option on a championship team?

Kevin Durant and Giannis Antetokounmpo.

and we passed on both of them.

and i still have to read that Portland fans "hate the draft" when is clearly the only way to compete BUT YOU HAVE TO SELECT THE RIGHT GUYS, NOT THE LILLARD'S OR MCCOLLUM'S WHO ONLY SELL TICKETS.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

the 2nd wheel in Golden State is Stephen Curry, how in the world can Lillard be compared to him???

Lillard can be compared to their 3rd or 4th wheels, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson and you can make the argument that even those 2 are better than Dame.

I really loved Lillard until i saw his low ceiling, now i hate him because of the narrative around him that pretend him to be a 1st/2nd option on a championship team when he clearly isn't.

Irving -Curry - I. Thomas - Wall - Paul - Walker -Westbrook - Harden - Lowry

1. That is a question for Portland Brass.

2. No probably not.

3. Get incredibly lucky.

What I can tell you is it doesn't happen over night. This isn't a 1 or 2 year process to get better than other teams right away.

40 Years!!!

 

[Blazer_Steve]

your Point?

 

[Blazer_Steve]

By getting a generational superstar or two top-ten guys. Give us an idea of how Portland should accomplish that.

Not by giving non starters the contracts they got over the off season for a start

 

[PtldPlatypus]

your Point Sly?

Not Sly.

I was just helping Sly understand your issues with the local media. I thought that tweet helped illustrate the concerns.

Was I wrong?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If you are saying Irving is a better option than Lillard then I am absolutely going to disagree with that. Lowry too. They are fine players and that is the level Lillard is on but I put him just a hair over them. I do agree with you that if Lillard played with LeBron and Kevin Love then he could win it all. But why would that be surprising?

How come the Raptors, Celtics, Rockets and Clippers don't win it all? Because only one team can. They are all very good teams but it takes great teams. You think they aren't trying to do the same thing as us and get another top 30 player? They don't grow on trees. There are only so many to go around especially when 1-3 teams are hogging more then there fair share of them.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

By getting a generational superstar or two top-ten guys. Give us an idea of how Portland should accomplish that.

Be clairvoyant, obviously. Olshey should have known 4 years ago that Giannis was going to develop into a superstar. Clearly everyone else saw it coming.

 

[Strenuus]

the 2nd wheel in Golden State is Stephen Curry, how in the world can Lillard be compared to him???

Lillard can be compared to their 3rd or 4th wheels, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson and you can make the argument that even those 2 are better than Dame.

I really loved Lillard until i saw his low ceiling, now i hate him because of the narrative around him that pretend him to be a 1st/2nd option on a championship team when he clearly isn't.

So you hate lillard because of the media... Not actually the player. Thats absurd. Rethink that.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

Not Sly.

I was just helping Sly understand your issues with the local media. I thought that tweet helped illustrate the concerns.

Was I wrong?

Sorry I edited the reply...you are correct. I bring up CJ and i get laughed at, or told I have no clue....Well the eye never lies. It is my opinion they dont have to agree but when u belittle someone for it, just shows you are trying to be the big kid in the lunch room and take your ball and go home. I respect everyone's opinion I love Dame also I just think CJ is better that is it.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

So you hate lillard because of the media... Not actually the player. Thats absurd. Rethink that.

I love Dame, Good Player and great community guy, I just think CJ is better

 

[Blazer_Steve]

If you are saying Irving is a better option than Lillard then I am absolutely going to disagree with that. Lowry too. They are fine players and that is the level Lillard is on but I put him just a hair over them. I do agree with you that if Lillard played with LeBron and Kevin Love then he could win it all. But why would that be surprising?

How come the Raptors, Celtics, Rockets and Clippers don't win it all? Because only one team can. They are all very good teams but it takes great teams. You think they aren't trying to do the same thing as us and get another top 30 player? They don't grow on trees. There are only so many to go around especially when 1-3 teams are hogging more then there fair share of them.

Why are you taking it like I am saying "keep it rollin" has not clue? I know us as Blazer fans are all wanting a ring. I think CJ would be a better fit than Dame on a 3 star championship team is all...if that makes me an out cast so be it, it is my opinion. More upside, better at letting others get theirs, better overall shooter. Yes he needs to work on getting to line, turnovers, and defense.

 

[Portland2014]

Please stop with this "great community guy", just stop, everyone.

How in the world being a great community guy matters in a basketball related discussion?

WE ARE A BASKETBALL TEAM, NOT AN HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATION.

With the Jail Blazers we nearly made the FINALS, with Lillard we're fighting for the 8th seed.

I'm fucking tired of Lillard' shoes, Lillard' songs, Lillard' spechees, Lillard's commercials and all that stuff, i'm only interested in winning.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

Please stop with this "great community guy", just stop, everyone.

How in the world being a great community guy matters in a basketball related discussion?

WE ARE A BASKETBALL TEAM, NOT AN HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATION.

With the Jail Blazers we nearly made the FINALS, with Lillard we're fighting for the 8th seed.

I'm fucking tired of Lillard shoes, Lillard songs, Lillard spechees, Lillard commercials and all that stuff, i'm only interested in winning.

My point exactly, It should be about the court.

 

[Minstrel]

Not by giving non starters the contracts they got over the off season for a start

Hey, I'm with you on that, but that really doesn't get the Blazers any closer to getting their own Antetokounmpo or Curry.

 

[Blazer_Steve]

Hey, I'm with you on that, but that really doesn't get the Blazers any closer to getting their own Antetokounmpo or Curry.

Gives them more space to make moves to bring guys. We are not getting FA to come here "PERIOD" so it has to be trade ( which they leave when contract is up) or draft and hope you can sign for long term.

I just want a F - ING Ring that is all. 40 Years of BS. The city and fans deserve a ring.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Why are you taking it like I am saying "keep it rollin" has not clue? I know us as Blazer fans are all wanting a ring. I think CJ would be a better fit than Dame on a 3 star championship team is all...if that makes me an out cast so be it, it is my opinion. More upside, better at letting others get theirs, better overall shooter. Yes he needs to work on getting to line, turnovers, and defense.

I actually don't have much of an issue with someone liking CJ better or thinking he is slightly better. They are pretty close in my view.

That wasn't what your original post was about though. It was that we need two more top 20 players to compete. And guess what? We might. But they don't grow on trees and some 20 other teams also need two more top 20 guys to get a championship. It isn't easy to find 1 more top 20 guy let a alone two. Especially when a team like GS has 4 top 30 guys when other teams only have 1 top 30 guy (I think we have two at least so we are better off than many teams).