Is Dame the modern version of Stephon Marbury?

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All this talk about Dame and his value has made me reflect on what Dame has accomplished, his limitations, and his future in Portland.

I love Dame, he is my favorite player on the team, and I think we are lucky to have him. With that said, all this talk (erroneously) about him being on the market has made me think about his value. Something made me think about Stephon Marbury, and how he was once a highly coveted offensive minded point guard. He bounced around the league from Minnesota to New Jersey to Phoenix and then to New York. He was never able to really elevate his team, despite putting up some decent numbers, and he fizzled out after the Knicks tried to make him into their conquering hero.

Dame is a better offensive player than Marbury, but Steph was a better passer, and their defense is pretty comparable. Will Dame be a guy who is the best player on a crappy team, and eventually bounce around because his team wants something more?

I ran a comparison of the two players through age 26. At that point Marbury had been in the league a few years longer than Dame, but I thought age was more relevant than experience in the league.

http://bkref.com/tiny/gANjY

I also think it's interesting that both Dame and Steph started their careers with an All-Star/Superstar big man. Dame inherited the team when LA left and Steph was traded to New Jersey.
 
I have made that comparison too. Gilbert Arenas also came to mind.
 
Age 26 Stat line:
Lillard 26/6/5
Marburg 20/9/3

TS%:
Lillard 56%
Marburg 52%

OBPM
Lillard 4.5
Marburg 3.9

DBPM
Lillard -1.7
Marburg -2.5

And in terms of locker room presences, they're polar opposites. Marbury got bounced around and bottomed out because he was a hothead. Lillards nothing like that clown.
 
Cool. Don't read the thread.

Bye Felicia.
Don't infect the board with this trash then. We already have enough Dame-bashing as it is.

I have made that comparison too. Gilbert Arenas also came to mind.
The oft-injured asshole that brought guns into the locker room?

Yeah, GREAT comparison.

This is getting ridiculous.
 
no.
add steph curry to your comparisons and a couple of others, too. Otherwise, this thread looks like fancy bitching, which is why it was poorly received by Bones.
Exactly.

There's other players that he compares better to, but these dudes only want to compare him to Marbury and Arenas... SMH.
 
Age 26 Stat line:
Lillard 26/6/5
Marburg 20/9/3

TS%:
Lillard 56%
Marburg 52%

OBPM
Lillard 4.5
Marburg 3.9

DBPM
Lillard -1.7
Marburg -2.5

And in terms of locker room presences, they're polar opposites. Marbury got bounced around and bottomed out because he was a hothead. Lillards nothing like that clown.

Those are some sweet stats bro! Except I'm talkin cumulatively and you're throwing out single season stats.

Cumulatively at age 26:

Lillard 19.7 PER
Marbury 19.4 PER

Lillard 110 DRtg
Marbury 109 DRtg

Lillard 28.9 AST%
Marbury 38.5 AST%
 
The oft-injured asshole that brought guns into the locker room?

Yeah, GREAT comparison.

This is getting ridiculous.
Calm down man. I'm talking about their games, not leadership. Obviously dame is a better person and leader.
 
Those are some sweet stats bro! Except I'm talkin cumulatively and you're throwing out single season stats.

Cumulatively at age 26:

Lillard 19.7 PER
Marbury 19.4 PER

Lillard 110 DRtg
Marbury 109 DRtg

Lillard 28.9 AST%
Marbury 38.5 AST%

PER = Flawed
Ast and DRtg are highly effective by who's around you, as well as the teams play style. Sweet stats bro!

Shit. With your logic, I guess we could diminish CJs skills as of now by lumping first two seasons into some "cumulative stats" to compare him to lesser players as well.
 
Dame has yet to eat a jar of Vaseline or move to China so I don't see the comparison
 
Calm down man. I'm talking about their games, not leadership. Obviously dame is a better person and leader.
The thing is, if Arenas had his head on straight, and was healthy, he would've been a top 10 player for years.

But because he was an idiot who was always hurt, it ends up as an overall negative comparison to Dame, for reasons that couldn't be further from relevant in terms of Dame.
 
Which one was better.....

The Lillard Time celebration?

Or Hibachi celebration?
 
Marbury in this era would be a perennial all star (in the east anyway).
 

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