Notice Trail Blazers willing to trade 1st round draft picks to shed salary

[BigGameDamian]

 

[TBpup]

Trading assets to fix Olshey's massive overpays. Typically, someone would lose their job for that.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Trading assets to fix Olshey's massive overpays. Typically, someone would lose their job for that.

He got the Cleveland asset... sooo

 

[BlazerBeav]

And more importantly got us the Nurkic asset, which should be considered.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Trading assets to fix Olshey's massive overpays. Typically, someone would lose their job for that.

This is hyperpresumptuous. Let's just wait until something happens.

 

[TBpup]

And more importantly got us the Nurkic asset, which should be considered.

Yes but at the press conference, the pick was what he seemed most excited about. Also, Olshey had to make a trade. If Plumlee wasn't in the last year of his contract, I doubt we would have Nurkic now.

 

[tester551]

Trading assets to fix Olshey's massive overpays. Typically, someone would lose their job for that.

Dont forget the vocal group of posters here that were arguing that it was "better to match Crabbe's contract than to loose him for nothing"...
Well, not it looks like we are going to PAY for the privilege of moving him.

 

[chzbrgr]

This is hyperpresumptuous. Let's just wait until something happens.

It's all hearsay but if it turns out to be true and we move assets to make up for his incompetence then he should lose his job

 

[chzbrgr]

And more importantly got us the Nurkic asset, which should be considered.

I dont think he deserves much credit for that. Dumb fucking luck should not be how we measure front office personnel.

 

[HolyBackboard]

Trading assets to fix Olshey's massive overpays. Typically, someone would lose their job for that.

I've been a huge Olshey apologist over his tenure, but if he uses our assets to fix his own mistakes, I'd be cool looking for another GM. We are so far away from competing with Golden State that if we used our picks to lower our team salary, there goes any realistic hope of improving.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

This is the most obvious rumor I've ever seen. Of course we need to shed salary! And wasn't this already reported a few weeks ago?

 

[Chris Craig]

Olshey is going to be forced to work for package deals, to shed salries, and bring back players to get his was out of a sling. This tweet makes it sound like he's just going to partner our picks with contracts like Meyers and Crabbe and justcwave bye bye smiling as the other team involved walks way freely. Olshey does that, it's career suicide. He's going to do package deals to get some young talent back and try to spin it, and sell it to the fans and Paul that it was a good movie, and that he's some kind of genius. Not that he gives a damn what the fans think. But, with his ego at stake, he is not going to make himself look worse then he already does. He's going to make a move and talk himself out of trouble like usual.

 

[andalusian]

I've been a huge Olshey apologist over his tenure, but if he uses our assets to fix his own mistakes, I'd be cool looking for another GM. We are so far away from competing with Golden State that if we used our picks to lower our team salary, there goes any realistic hope of improving.

All the stuff I heard was that PA was the one that was unwilling to lose assets for nothing - so I am not certain this is a NO "mistake". Crabbe was forced on him. You could argue that he overpaid ET and ML - but I am not certain this is true for ET - and with ML you just pay for potential.

 

[riverman]

I don't see a problem at all....if you can trade away Leonard and Crabbe's contracts and it costs you one pick...plus you don't know if he'll get a player back in the deal...if he does....it's not going to be that hard replacing Crabbe or Leonard.

 

[Rhal]

So we are supposed to believe that NO, who is pretty famous for not leaking anything, has leaked something for a sports writer who pretty the last stuff he has tweeted and written about is more conjecture then anything and is also a sports writer who has never been the first to report anything his entire career. I'm going to say this is more just assumptions then anything on his part.

 

[Scalma]

What if Olshey takes a swing at his boy Porzingis? Knicks are dumb, who knows. I would've laughed if you told me were gonna get Nurkic and a first for plumlee, and Denver actually has a good GM. Obviously Porzingis is another story, but so are the Knicks.

 

[Chris Craig]

How desperate is Olshey getting?

 

[BBert]

 

[BonesJones]

Again, no point in trading out salary while attaching picks unless you're either A) Creating cap space to sign free agents or B) Really valuing what you're getting back.
To create cap space, I would try: Turner, Meyers, and #15 or #20 for O'Quinn and #45.

In free agency, I'd offer BKN Crabbe and Harkless for future 2nd round picks (restock the cabinet),
Then I'd offer #15/#20 & #26 for Crowder ((after BOS signs/trades for an all-star SF)). Trade Aminu to ORL for a future 2nd.

The additions of O'Quinn and Crowder adds two 27 year olds that play good defense and make a combined $10M.

That leaves us with:
Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / ?
Crowder / ?
Vonleh / Davis
Nurkic / O'Quinn

As well as $20M in cap space. I'd pursue Holiday as a 3rd guard for $20M, or guys like Tyreke Evans, Thabo Sefelosha, etc.

 

[BBert]

I'm for anything that makes room to acquire and keep Paul George.

Otherwise: Not so much.

 

[Scalma]

Again, no point in trading out salary while attaching picks unless you're either A) Creating cap space to sign free agents or B) Really valuing what you're getting back..

Then explain your proposal of Crabbe, the 20th pick, and Leonard for Terrance Ross and a couple of second rounders.

 

[Pinwheel1]

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...to_trade_first_round_draft_p.html#incart_2box

The Portland Trail Blazers are willing to trade away one or more of their three first round draft picks if they could land a proven veteran or other valuable assets, a league source told The Oregonian/OregonLive. Despite a large payroll heading into the 2017-18 season the team isn't interested in a simple salary dump.

 

[Scalma]

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...to_trade_first_round_draft_p.html#incart_2box

The Portland Trail Blazers are willing to trade away one or more of their three first round draft picks if they could land a proven veteran or other valuable assets, a league source told The Oregonian/OregonLive. Despite a large payroll heading into the 2017-18 season the team isn't interested in a simple salary dump.

Thank god

 

[BonesJones]

Then explain your proposal of Crabbe, the 20th pick, and Leonard for Terrance Ross and a couple of second rounders.

Because you're dumping two bad contracts and a pick for good value? I'd really value being able to get a return of Ross and early 2nds for that package. I'm basically saying don't shed salary for nothing in return, whether it be no free agents in return or nothing back in the trade.

 

[BonesJones]

Nobody knows whats gonna happen, not even Olshey.

 

[Chris Craig]

Nobody knows whats gonna happen, not even Olshey.

You think he's wearing some



Just in case

 

[Scalma]

Because you're dumping two bad contracts and a pick for good value? I'd really value being able to get a return of Ross and early 2nds for that package. I'm basically saying don't shed salary for nothing in return, whether it be no free agents in return or nothing back in the trade.

How is that good value? Ross is an older, shittier version of Crabbe, who's locked in for only two more seasons. Second round picks can be bought whenever. Look at Layman last year. That trade doesnt put us under the cap either. So what does it do exactly besides save Paul Allen some luxury tax payments?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/i...to_trade_first_round_draft_p.html#incart_2box

The Portland Trail Blazers are willing to trade away one or more of their three first round draft picks if they could land a proven veteran or other valuable assets, a league source told The Oregonian/OregonLive. Despite a large payroll heading into the 2017-18 season the team isn't interested in a simple salary dump.

I'm pretty sure that the idea is that an Olshey requirement for a trade is that we take back less salary than we send out. Some have interpreted this as a "simple" salary dump, but I don't think it ever was that.

 

[ripcityboy]

If it's to get a veteran or somebody valuable that makes a lot of sense. But a simple salary dump? Then we are just pawns for the rest of the league to do business.

 

[BonesJones]

How is that good value? Ross is an older, shittier version of Crabbe, who's locked in for only two more seasons. Second round picks can be bought whenever. Look at Layman last year. That trade doesnt put us under the cap either. So what does it do exactly besides save Paul Allen some luxury tax payments?

Ross at $12M is better value than Crabbe at $18M, and I'd rather have 33 and 35 than 20 and Leonard.