The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

I never said Favors is a Stretch-4. Isn't there two parts to the 3 & D model? How do they get closer to the 3 & D model by trading defense and inside scoring away for one-dimensional 3pt shooting? I guess it makes the team more balanced in terms of both but there defense is their identity. Moving away from their identity wouldn't be a good thing.

 

To do what?

 

I thought Whitney Houston beat Bobby Brown "to death" a few years ago?

 

not poking the bear but,

Blazers were set to take RA and send Harkless and Leonard to NYK till Phil got fired. Then Olshey changed his mind. (from Phil interview). Olshey might have just been playing possum the whole time.

 

You said if he wanted money he could opt in and play anywhere. I took that as you said he could opt in, then pick a team to play for.

By opting in, he is playing for NY so they would have to trade him. That gets back to his NTC. and he is a yr older.

 

That sounds pretty unlikely to me. Especially since that was before the Crabbe trade and Portland was trying to reduce salary, not take on yet another albatross (and they already had several). Especially when it means a bad defensive team giving up one of their only two way players (Harkless) for yet another defensive minus.

I think it's far more likely that that was Jackson's proposal and Olshey was simply participating in talks, until he decided that there was nothing to be gained being a part of the deal.

 

Portland would never have taken that trade. They just shed Crabbe, who's younger, a SG version of Anderson, and was at a position of scarcity (SG). So you really think they'd do the opposite and take on Anderson, who makes even more than Crabbe, plays a position Portland already has a logjam at (PF), would trade away their starting SF, and help Houston get better?

You gotta be kidding if you think that was ever a consideration by Olshey. It was probably his way of gauging New York's interest in Harkless for Melo while wasting HOU's time and seeing how little hope HOU had of negotiating a trade for Melo.

 

I didn't mean to imply you said he was a stretch-4. I meant if a team wanted to go to that model, RA would be a better fit. 40% 3's is a significant improve meant over Favors, the drop in D is not as great.

 

Uh, no, he can't opt in and pick a team to play for, obviously.

He could get traded and opt in, he could stay in NY and opt in, and then get traded, or stay...

Money doesn't affect anything in the situation. You said if he just wants money, he'd stay in NY. How is staying in NY going to earn him more money?

 

Offensively, Favors and Anderson are closer together in talent wise than defensively. Favors is a very good defender, while Anderson is downright awful. While Anderson is a better fit offensively, he's not much more talented offensively.

Trading Favors for Anderson doesn't make Utah any better. It may improve there offense from a cohesion standpoint, but it results in a big decline in their defense (their identity), and puts them in a much worse situation in terms of cap space.

 

I think it's funny that some of these fans won't even give up a 1st for Melo even with giving up Andersons contract lmao.

And some of them don't know that they already traded away their 2018 pick... They also think they can trade away their 2019 pick even though they traded away their 2018 pick...

 

I think if Utah were to replace Favors with Anderson it would make them worse on both ends of the court.

 

To be traded to another team before opting in, Melo would have to agree and the team would want to know if he was opting in or not.
I don't know too many teams that would take him if they knew he would make $28M next year. That is why I said for $, he would stay in NY.
Do you think he is worth $28M? (said inquisitively, not as a smart ass).

 

the board seems more active.

 

Agree. Chupes is welcome. He roots for a disgusting team, but he can't help that, just like I was born with a birthmark in the shape of a dick on my back. Can't help that either.




Not joking.

 

I do not think he is worth that, but in context of some of the truly terrible contracts, it isn't that bad. On the Allen Crabbe scale, Melo is definitely worth 28m.