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George W. Bush was a terrible president. He fumbled everything from Katrina to Iraq to the economy. But even he wasn't all bad — his AIDS initiative in Africa was a blessing to that continent, for instance.

Jimmy Carter is remembered as a disastrous president (possibly unfairly) but he's had a post-presidency that's proved him an uncommonly decent man.

Lyndon Johnson's presidency collapsed in the Vietnam War — but hey, at least he spearheaded the momentous Civil Rights Act.

The point is that even lousy presidents have a silver lining ... right? Well, maybe not. It is increasingly difficult to find one nice thing to say about President Trump.


Let's just look at the last month: In that time he and his administration have picked fights with allies, buttered up dictators, accelerated a nascent trade war, and created — purely for the sake of cruelty and cynical political leverage — a humanitarian disaster on our border with Mexico. Oh, and in his spare time, he's used his Twitter account to undermine the rule of law in hopes it will save him from prosecution.

That's a whole term of bad accomplishments for some presidents, but Trump is barely breaking a sweat.

Trump oversees a White House full of chaotic, petty backstabbing. He makes some key decisions, it appears, purely for their trolling value. He changes positions so frequently that no one can rely on his word, but you weren't going to trust his word anyway since he's such a prolific liar. He tolerates obvious corruption in his Cabinet. He can't quite bring himself to condemn Nazis. And what may be his greatest "success" — getting out of Congress' way to get a tax cut passed — was a handout to the rich that will be paid by the poor and middle class for years to come.

He's the worst.

There are other contenders for the title, of course, but a glance through American history reveals that most bad presidents — like the aforementioned Bush, Carter, and Johnson — have at least one thing going for them.

Richard Nixon was the only president to resign, thanks to Watergate, which instantly relegated him to the ranks of the worst presidents. But he also opened relations with the Chinese, eased tensions with the Soviets, established the Environmental Protection Agency and, heck, he even endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment. He was better than Trump.

Herbert Hoover left the economy in such bad shape that capitalism itself needed saving after his term. But like Jimmy Carter, Hoover was redeemed in private life by his tremendous humanitarian work during World War I — and he was even known to raise funds for what is now the Boys & Girls Club of America. He was better than Trump.


Warren G. Harding's presidency was beset with corruption and scandal — though the most famous, the Teapot Dome scandal, wasn't revealed until after his death — and his private life, replete with infidelity, was nothing to brag about either. But he was also an early advocate of civil rights, urging that African Americans in the South be given equal opportunity to vote, and he condemned lynching in unequivocal terms. He was better than Trump.

James Buchanan played fiddle while the forces that led to the Civil War were gathering momentum. This is regarded by many historians as one of the worst-ever presidential mistakes. And he was an early example of a now-familiar phenomenon: a Northern man with Southern principles. Still, unlike Trump, Buchanan also had a long history of service to the public — serving as minister to Russia, ambassador to the United Kingdom, and secretary of state. Even he was better than Trump.

The list goes on. It is near impossible to find any president, no matter how terrible, of whom some nice things can't be said — until we get to Trump.

This raises a question: How might Trump possibly redeem himself? A Jimmy Carter post-presidency of philanthropy seems unlikely, given that New York is suing Trump for using his charitable foundation as a piggy bank to fund his private ventures. The best that can be said of "private life" Trump is that while he's a vulgarian con man, he's at least an entertaining vulgarian con man.

I know Trump has his fans. They don't see him as needing redemption. They're glad he's appointing conservative judges. They want a harsher stance against illegal immigration. Some may even like his trade protectionism. But the polls show that Trump is currently the most popular he has ever been in office — and still, a healthy majority of Americans disapprove of his performance.

What's clear to most of us, then, is that Trump is an awful president. What's less clear? That there's anything nice you can say about him or his presidency. It's catastrophes all the way down. Trump is the worst — and it's Americans who will pay the price.

http://theweek.com/articles/779929/donald-trump-indisputably-worst-president-american-history
 
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George W. Bush was a terrible president. He fumbled everything from Katrina to Iraq to the economy. But even he wasn't all bad — his AIDS initiative in Africa was a blessing to that continent, for instance.

Jimmy Carter is remembered as a disastrous president (possibly unfairly) but he's had a post-presidency that's proved him an uncommonly decent man.

Lyndon Johnson's presidency collapsed in the Vietnam War — but hey, at least he spearheaded the momentous Civil Rights Act.

The point is that even lousy presidents have a silver lining ... right? Well, maybe not. It is increasingly difficult to find one nice thing to say about President Trump.


Let's just look at the last month: In that time he and his administration have picked fights with allies, buttered up dictators, accelerated a nascent trade war, and created — purely for the sake of cruelty and cynical political leverage — a humanitarian disaster on our border with Mexico. Oh, and in his spare time, he's used his Twitter account to undermine the rule of law in hopes it will save him from prosecution.

That's a whole term of bad accomplishments for some presidents, but Trump is barely breaking a sweat.

Trump oversees a White House full of chaotic, petty backstabbing. He makes some key decisions, it appears, purely for their trolling value. He changes positions so frequently that no one can rely on his word, but you weren't going to trust his word anyway since he's such a prolific liar. He tolerates obvious corruption in his Cabinet. He can't quite bring himself to condemn Nazis. And what may be his greatest "success" — getting out of Congress' way to get a tax cut passed — was a handout to the rich that will be paid by the poor and middle class for years to come.

He's the worst.

There are other contenders for the title, of course, but a glance through American history reveals that most bad presidents — like the aforementioned Bush, Carter, and Johnson — have at least one thing going for them.

Richard Nixon was the only president to resign, thanks to Watergate, which instantly relegated him to the ranks of the worst presidents. But he also opened relations with the Chinese, eased tensions with the Soviets, established the Environmental Protection Agency and, heck, he even endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment. He was better than Trump.

Herbert Hoover left the economy in such bad shape that capitalism itself needed saving after his term. But like Jimmy Carter, Hoover was redeemed in private life by his tremendous humanitarian work during World War I — and he was even known to raise funds for what is now the Boys & Girls Club of America. He was better than Trump.


Warren G. Harding's presidency was beset with corruption and scandal — though the most famous, the Teapot Dome scandal, wasn't revealed until after his death — and his private life, replete with infidelity, was nothing to brag about either. But he was also an early advocate of civil rights, urging that African Americans in the South be given equal opportunity to vote, and he condemned lynching in unequivocal terms. He was better than Trump.

James Buchanan played fiddle while the forces that led to the Civil War were gathering momentum. This is regarded by many historians as one of the worst-ever presidential mistakes. And he was an early example of a now-familiar phenomenon: a Northern man with Southern principles. Still, unlike Trump, Buchanan also had a long history of service to the public — serving as minister to Russia, ambassador to the United Kingdom, and secretary of state. Even he was better than Trump.

The list goes on. It is near impossible to find any president, no matter how terrible, of whom some nice things can't be said — until we get to Trump.

This raises a question: How might Trump possibly redeem himself? A Jimmy Carter post-presidency of philanthropy seems unlikely, given that New York is suing Trump for using his charitable foundation as a piggy bank to fund his private ventures. The best that can be said of "private life" Trump is that while he's a vulgarian con man, he's at least an entertaining vulgarian con man.

I know Trump has his fans. They don't see him as needing redemption. They're glad he's appointing conservative judges. They want a harsher stance against illegal immigration. Some may even like his trade protectionism. But the polls show that Trump is currently the most popular he has ever been in office — and still, a healthy majority of Americans disapprove of his performance.

What's clear to most of us, then, is that Trump is an awful president. What's less clear? That there's anything nice you can say about him or his presidency. It's catastrophes all the way down. Trump is the worst — and it's Americans who will pay the price.

http://theweek.com/articles/779929/donald-trump-indisputably-worst-president-american-history
Who would be half witted enough to dispute that?
 
The wars Bush got us in were pretty fucked up. Reagan and Nixon set the stage for our current counter culture and economic disparity. Trump hasn't overtaken them yet but only because his policies haven't have years or decades to affect us yet.
 
The wars Bush got us in were pretty fucked up. Reagan and Nixon set the stage for our current counter culture and economic disparity. Trump hasn't overtaken them yet but only because his policies haven't have years or decades to affect us yet.
When Trump kills more American soldiers and adds more amputee/horrifically crippled soldiers than the Bush family did then we'll talk.
 
When Trump kills more American soldiers and adds more amputee/horrifically crippled soldiers than the Bush family did then we'll talk.

With Trump around it's easy to forget what Bush did to our country and the world. Bush/Cheny stole our democracy starting with the elections. They also set us up for someone like Trump.

I kind of fear that Trump is setting the stage for future fascists though. So time will tell just how bad he really is.

If we are not careful the only progress we will see soon is the progression of fascism through media control and distrust, as well as dehumanization of who each of us considers our enemies. Just look on this board, people fucking hate each other these days and are rooting for each others demise. We make assumptions on everyone based rabid liberals and selfish conservatives we see in social media, when most of us are more reasonable than we give each other credit for.
 
Typical trump over reaction. Jesus this forum. Yeah trump isn’t a good president obviously but this created narrative of him being a dictator is outrageous. Bush to me personally is one of the worst presidents that has ever existed. Weapons of mass destruction anyone? You know how many soldiers and innocent people that whole shit show got killed? Bush is worse than trump by a landslide, not sure of all time but definitely more terrible. I don’t see the hysteria over trump. Yeah he’s said some ridiculous things, he’s not very presidential. That’s about it. Nobody around here can even give the guy kudos for his meeting with Kim jong un yet you were suckers for the south and North Korea meeting at the border. Makes no sense. Why you want the president to fail is beyond me. People should want him to succeed and do better. Yet it’s a personal victory when he fucks up and this OT section treats it as such. It’s weird. I was never fond of bush or Obama but wanted them to do well. Not very fond of trump but I think he’s treated pretty unfairly and as of this point it’s just become cool to hate the guy. It’s weird
 
Trump does not smoke.
Trump does not drink.
Trump does not use drugs.

Trump only has one little problem. He lies.
And how do you know he doesn’t drink or do drugs? Because he said so? But you admit he lies. He also says he’s not into golden showers.
 
With Trump around it's easy to forget what Bush did to our country and the world. Bush/Cheny stole our democracy starting with the elections. They also set us up for someone like Trump.

I kind of fear that Trump is setting the stage for future fascists though. So time will tell just how bad he really is.

If we are not careful the only progress we will see soon is the progression of fascism through media control and distrust, as well as dehumanization of who each of us considers our enemies. Just look on this board, people fucking hate each other these days and are rooting for each others demise. We make assumptions on everyone based rabid liberals and selfish conservatives we see in social media, when most of us are more reasonable than we give each other credit for.
Do us all a favor and drop the word fascism if you don’t even know what it means or how to use it which is clearly the case here. God damn you kind of people water down every meaningful word. A fascist used to be Hitler or Mussolini. Now it’s donald trump? Lol uhhhh okay. Clearly reality doesn’t exist in 2018
 
Do us all a favor and drop the word fascism if you don’t even know what it means or how to use it which is clearly the case here. God damn you kind of people water down every meaningful word. A fascist used to be Hitler or Mussolini. Now it’s donald trump? Lol uhhhh okay. Clearly reality doesn’t exist in 2018
Trump Derangement Sydrome is strong amongst the Cucks.

I’m just sitting here enjoying extra money in my paychecks.

:dunno:
 
And how do you know he doesn’t drink or do drugs? Because he said so? But you admit he lies. He also says he’s not into golden showers.
You golden shower and russia collusion guys are worse than the Obama birther guys. Your ideology is so left that you believe a buzzfeed article and the russia collusion narrative that has been going on for a year now with no evidence or weight to it and you look for any Russian ties even if it’s just business as usual. What happened to this country? Y’all need to chill.
 
I think there are a few choices and Trump wouldn’t be on the the top of my “worst presidents” list because he is too incapable of doing his BS under the radar so there is plenty of opposition to temper what he could otherwise accomplish to actually take the top notch on the shitbag list.
 
Its a joke.
You can't believe anything a liar says.

PS, every politician is a liar.
Although I do agree that all politicians are liars to some degree, there are huge variations in how much they lie. Carter Vs Trump? Obama vs Trump? Obama Vs Clinton?
 
Although I do agree that all politicians are liars to some degree, there are huge variations in how much they lie. Carter Vs Trump? Obama vs Trump? Obama Vs Clinton?
How about don’t lie at all? Now you have twisted it into “oh it’s how they lie” pretty much saying yeah Obama lied but he did it so gracefully. Clinton lied too but boy isn’t she great? Yeah how about no president lies? That’s never happened though. You put too much stock and belief in presidents and politicians. Politicians are the scum of society who don’t really give a damn about you but look at you bat for them. What have they done for you?
 

This is true.
No American president has lied to me and the people with the magnitude of Obama.
When he stood there in on the floor of Congress and said, If you like your Health Care You can Keep your healthcare. This while he already knew Valerie Jarrett had already bragged about
me and million like me loosing it, and I already knew it was gone, I had already been informed. Never before, can I recall a lying SOB of this magnitude.
 
Do us all a favor and drop the word fascism if you don’t even know what it means or how to use it which is clearly the case here. God damn you kind of people water down every meaningful word. A fascist used to be Hitler or Mussolini. Now it’s donald trump? Lol uhhhh okay. Clearly reality doesn’t exist in 2018

Who are"You kind of people"?, are they the liberals you have in your head?

Definition of fascism
: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocraticgovernment headed by a dictatorialleader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

What's your reality?
 
Who are"You kind of people"?, are they the liberals you have in your head?

Definition of fascism
: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocraticgovernment headed by a dictatorialleader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

What's your reality?
You kind of people being these hive minded ideologues that often say the most insane shit that just isn't true you know like throwing words like fascist around. We do not live in a fascist country. Donald Trump himself is not a fascist. That's just insane. Check the definition again. There is no debate here, you are simply wrong
 
You golden shower and russia collusion guys are worse than the Obama birther guys. Your ideology is so left that you believe a buzzfeed article and the russia collusion narrative that has been going on for a year now with no evidence or weight to it and you look for any Russian ties even if it’s just business as usual. What happened to this country? Y’all need to chill.
do you have an ideology or take on things or is bashing the opinions of others with statements like...god damn you people blah blah blah.....your mission here?
 
Who are"You kind of people"?, are they the liberals you have in your head?

Definition of fascism
: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocraticgovernment headed by a dictatorialleader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

What's your reality?
That doesn’t describe trump lol y’all are crazy
 

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