OT Roe V Wade In Trouble

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  1. barfo

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    Agreed. Swimming upstream against progress doesn't work long-term. This is a step back before two steps forward. Of course it may take awhile to realize this prediction...

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    Medical procedures should not be decided by anyone other than medical professionals and people involved. That's how it is meant to be.
     
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    Husband of Seattle woman who had a miscarriage on Malta babymoon and could now DIE because doctors won't abort the baby reveals she asked him to PUNCH HER in the stomach to stop 'viable' heartbeat and end her 'torture'
    • Andrea Prudente, 38, and husband, Jay Weeldreyer, 45, from Washington, were visiting the European island when she suddenly developed heavy bleeding
    • Andrea, who was 16 week pregnant, was told she had a ruptured membrane, detached placenta, and no amniotic fluid - but the fetus still had a heartbeat
    • Medical professionals at Mater Dei Hospital, where she was admitted, are now refusing to terminate the pregnancy since abortion is illegal in Malta
    • The fetus has no chance of survival, so the couple has to wait for it to die on its own. But Andrea is now at risk for infection and hemorrhaging
    • Andrea considered taking matters in her own hand, with her husband revealing she asked him to hit her 'as hard as he could' to stop the fetus' heartbeat
    • Jay slammed the hospital for 'prolonging his wife's suffering' and called their refusal to terminate the baby 'physiological torture'
    An American woman who began suffering from a miscarriage while on vacation in Malta and is now fearing for her life because doctors have refused to terminate the pregnancy has admitted that she wanted her husband to punch her in the stomach to stop the fetus' 'viable' heartbeat and end her 'suffering.'

    Andrea Prudente, 38, and her husband, Jay Weeldreyer, 45, from Seattle, Washington, were visiting the European island in an attempt to spend some quality time together before welcoming a daughter, when she suddenly developed heavy bleeding and was rushed to the hospital.

    The expecting mother, who was 16 week pregnant at the time, thought she had suffered from a miscarriage, and an ultrasound showed a ruptured membrane, detached placenta, and no amniotic fluid in the womb - however, the fetus still had a heartbeat.

    Medical professionals at Mater Dei Hospital, where she was admitted, are now refusing to terminate the pregnancy since abortion is illegal in Malta - despite her being at risk for a possible infection, which could enter her bloodstream and kill her, and despite the fetus having a 'zero per cent chance' of survival.

    But Andrea considered taking matters in her own hand, with her husband revealing to the Today show in a new interview that she asked him to hit her 'as hard as he could' in her stomach to stop the fetus' heartbeat.

    'There was a moment when Andrea told me she was seriously considering asking me to punch her as hard as I can in the stomach, to start labor or stop the heart,' he told the outlet.

    'You are looking at your partner and she's asking you to do everything that goes against your nature - hurting her, hurting the baby you want - but at the same time it might be the path to save her

    'You're pleading and pleading, and there's no way to get the help you want.'

    Jay recalled feeling 'elation' when they found out that they were expecting their first child together. But when he was told their baby 'wasn't going to survive,' their excitement soon turned to pain.

    'I was gutted. Heartbroken. I thought, "What's next? Is Andrea safe?" he explained. 'There was an awareness that this wasn't over yet, and we really don't get to grieve until it is.'

    Infection can easily enter Andrea's body through the ruptured membrane and could get into her uterus - or even her bloodstream, potentially leading to death.

    On top of that, she also has an umbilical cord protruding from her cervix, which puts her at an 'extreme risk' of hemorrhaging.

    Andrea reportedly asked doctors to terminate the pregnancy, but her request was denied as abortion is currently illegal in Malta - which is located in the Mediterranean sea near Italy.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...ont-perform-abortion-wants-PUNCH-stomach.html
     
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    Doctors for Choice Malta - a non-profit organization made up of pro-choice professionals fighting the abortion ban on the island - reported on its website that women who have abortions in Malta could face a maximum of three years in prison.

    Doctors who help carry out the abortions could also face jailtime and a permanent revocation of their license, with the company adding, 'There are no exceptions in the law to allow an abortion even when the woman's health is at risk, in cases of severe fetal malformation, or in cases of rape or incest.'

    'It wasn't until a couple days later that we realized the details of the legal restrictions, and that made the behavior of the medical professionals make a lot more sense. It hammered home just how bad our situation was,' Jay told the Today show.

    The couple was given two options - sit and wait for the pregnancy to end on its own and hope that nothing happens to Andrea in the meantime, or take an 'extremely risky' flight to a nearby country where abortion is allowed.

    They spent days trying to get her medically evacuated, and according to the couple, Mater Dei Hospital didn't make the process any easier for them.

    Andrea told the Guardian that the hospital was 'uncooperative in their attempts to leave and in sharing medical records with her insurance company.'

    'I just want to get out of here alive,' she told the outlet earlier this week, from her hospital room in Malta’s capital, Valletta. 'I couldn’t in my wildest dreams have thought up a nightmare like this.'

    Jay called the hospital's actions an 'inconceivable form of emotional and psychological torture,' while Andrea added that she feels like she is being 'traumatized.'

    While speaking to the Today show, Jay further slammed the hospital for 'prolonging his wife's suffering.'

    'There's a kind of torture that happens, psychologically, when you've been attaching to a pregnancy, seeing her on the ultrasound and making plans, only to learn you can't have her,' he said.

    'And then you encounter a medical system that puts you in the situation we're in now - probably the worst situation imaginable.

    'They have the capacity to provide the help. It's right there and available. But not only will they not help, but they're doing things to prolong suffering. We wanted this baby girl, and without water she's now compressed.'

    On top of being terrified for his wife's health, he is also worried about the cost of her medical treatment, admitting that it has 'wrecked their finances.'

    'Insurance is arranging this, but we're responsible for everything above and beyond what they cover,' he said.

    Thankfully, the pair was able to secure an emergency flight to Spain, which will happen in the coming days. They are now sharing her story with the world in the hopes of raising awareness and 'avoiding a tragedy.'

    'I don’t want this to happen to more people,' Andrea added to the Guardian.
     
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    Actually Islamic law does not prohibit abortion. There are three views prevalent among Muslim scholars, most of whom are men. Some allow what we call first trimester abortion as a woman's choice. Others allow abortion very early in hardship cases. Only a minority days abortion should be banned. Like in America, the most woman hating are in power.
     
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    So if the woman survives, and the heartbeat finally stops, will they then take it out of her, if so, maybe can we leave it on Supreme Courts doorstep?
     
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    As a father of a teen daughter, this is a very sad day……..
     
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    From the comment section of this article:

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    And here I thought the McDonald's Quarter Pounder was the weight of the beef and not the size of the baby used to make it.

    But it does explain why the McRib is sooooo delicious.
     
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    Were any of those fetuses asked if they wanted an ultrasound performed on them?
     
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    And I wish you'd quit acting like you know what's best for women.
     
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    Women don't give a fuck what you wish upon them nor should they. Go find an orphanage and deal with your wishes with your home and pocketbook...hopefully you'll choose a child of incest...they usually have special needs and nobody wants them. Maybe they'll have some crack babies that can benefit from your financial contributions..cut some of your tourist dreams short and become a full time child care professional...that's what Jesus would want. You're not going to care for a poverty stricken single mom who's been raped...you're going to add to her burden because you think fetus ultrasound photos are cute.
     
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    Roe v. Wade is based on the Due Process Clause of the 14th amendment & the right to privacy. In reference to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Justice Clarence Thomas has said "In future cases we should reconsider all of this court's substansive due process precedents." Here are some of those related cases - some of which Thomas explicitly mentioned.

    The overturning of Roe v. Wade is just the tip of the iceberg.
     
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    The people did not decide since most opposed this decision. Five people who think they know what's best for an entire country decided to overturn decades of precedent and actually voted to take away peoples fundamental right to choose what to do with their own fucking body. Decided there is no separation of church and state anymore, since that's where this all comes from - outdated religious dogma. Forcing teens, those with health concerns and those who are raped to give birth is disgusting and yet another damning legacy of Donald Trump.
     
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    I thought lying was a no-no in religion.
     
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