So our backcourt is pretty good, huh?

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I don't know that I've ever seen two perimeter teammates play a more efficient, prolific scoring game than VC and Devin did tonight. Quite a performance and a much needed win for the team.

Of course I figured they would win because I knew there would be more energy (and people) in the stands than usual. Let's hope there's some carryover to tomorrow night.
 
Tony Parker and Manu are a pretty good back court too. Rip and Billups were a great back court. But this back courts, has obvious great scoring, and is fun to watch, but they won't match up to those back courts.
 
:clap:tonight,our backcourt

vc+harris=75 points,13 rebs,19 ast,pretty good:clap:
 
when they both are on there is no better back court ever.....
 
I'd say Vince and Harris are the most violent backcourt.

Just because of their attack.
 
King Shake said:
Tony Parker and Manu are a pretty good back court too. Rip and Billups were a great back court. But this back courts, has obvious great scoring, and is fun to watch, but they won't match up to those back courts.
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Well, they haven't won a championship, but it's their first full season together, they don't have Tim Duncan and defensive player of the year candidates around them, and they don't have the amazing quality, veteran depth that the Pistons had a few years ago.

As an individual player, Carter is better, more versatile, and certainly more talented than all those you mentioned, has had a more impressive career in individual terms. And Harris is just proving how some coaches, systems, and too much conventional wisdom can impede the growth of a player. There isn't a point guard in the league playing better overall than Devin since the Detroit game. And I think Devin is going to be a better player long term than Parker (is certainly playing better this season) because he has more length while being just as quick and has better range on his jumper.
 
Shake I know your a Toronto fan but can you just call a spade a spade?? Devin and Vince are easily the most productive backcourt in the NBA THIS YEAR. Chauncey and Rip as well as Tony and Manu were supported by at least one frontcourt player that were easily one of the best at their positions. THIS YEAR the two aforementioned backcourts aren't even close to matching the production of Devin and Vince. They are also doing this without much help in the frontcourt on both offense and defense, they have to guard their men and also put up numbers on offense.
 
FOMW great minds think alike haha. Hilarious, I was also going to mention how annoyed I get when people try to play it off as if Rip and Manu are better players than Vince.
 
King Shake said:
Tony Parker and Manu are a pretty good back court too. Rip and Billups were a great back court. But this back courts, has obvious great scoring, and is fun to watch, but they won't match up to those back courts.
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You have balls to talk after your team lost to Oklahoma? ROFLMAO!!!
 
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Netsfan99 said:
You have balls to talk after your team lost to Oaklahoma? ROFLMAO!!!
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We lost to the Knicks who got creamed by the Bucks, We also have consistently let big leads slip this year...so I don't know if i would criticize other teams when we're not consistently good either.
 
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There were so many good gif capture moments from this game. I'm going to start a thread later and post them there.
 
We need LeBron James to join with the Nets, we will have the most violent three players.

Devin Carter LeBron
 
Listen, I'm not saying Carter and Harris isn't a good back court. Just FOMW said "I've ever seen two perimeter teammates play a more efficient" I've seen much more efficient back courts. But hey, Carter and Harris can run with the best of them, for sure. No reason to blow up and tell me the Raptors suck. I know they suck right now. They lost to the worst team in the league, and our star player is pissed as fuck.

The thing is not about team, it's about the back court. Harris and Carter are one of the best scoring, but most efficient, I don't think so.
 
NOMAM said:
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There were so many good gif capture moments from this game. I'm going to start a thread later and post them there.
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Can you make that smaller so I can use it as an avy?
 
no. one has heart. the other is a washed up bum. one actualy tries, the other just chucks up jumpers and never drives. plus one is always injured all the time.

so much sarcasm....ouch....

seriously, fun backcourt to watch
 
King Shake said:
Listen, I'm not saying Carter and Harris isn't a good back court. Just FOMW said "I've ever seen two perimeter teammates play a more efficient" I've seen much more efficient back courts. But hey, Carter and Harris can run with the best of them, for sure. No reason to blow up and tell me the Raptors suck. I know they suck right now. They lost to the worst team in the league, and our star player is pissed as fuck.

The thing is not about team, it's about the back court. Harris and Carter are one of the best scoring, but most efficient, I don't think so.
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It really helps to read what a person writes:

I don't know that I've ever seen two perimeter teammates play a more efficient, prolific scoring game than VC and Devin did tonight.
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I said nothing about their efficiency for all time (although they've both been extremely efficient this season). The combination of efficiency and PROLIFIC scoring output from two teammates in the same game, let alone two guards who both must handle the ball a lot to be effective, is truly rare. I can't recall ever seeing a game where that particular combination was the case.
 
Devin Harris has really become a good player. When was the last time a guy could score 40 points in a game and have over 10 assists to go with it? Once he improves on defense, he will be a top 3 point guard. Hell, he might be top three right now. Maybe.

Vince is playing well too. I love how everyone was saying Vince is washed up and last year he sucked so he will again this season, will all the haters have got to shut up after the way Carter has been playing this season. He's playing good on defense and has become a good leader. He has matured over the years. Back then no one would call him a leader, now look at him. Along with Harris, he is leading a team that really isn't deep to a top eight seed.
 
Devin Harris PER- 25.67 number 5 overall
Vince Carter PER- 21.89 number 21 overall


Tony Parker- 22.32 number 18 overall
Manu Ginobli- 21.93 number 20 overall


Chanucey is # 24 and Rip is not in the top 50

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holl.../insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics


On a side note Manu and Tony's best Player efficiency ratings was during the Spurs last championship run. They're PERs were not as high as Vince and Devin's is this year, it's not really that close either. If Vince and Devin continue playing the way they have been (there's not reason why they wouldn't), then they will be more efficient than the gold standard of the spurs backcourt. If you add up the nets backcourt and the spurs championship backcourt. the nets backcourt of this year is about 3 PER points higher. Of course the spurs won the championship because they had Duncan who had a PER of over 26. If only the nets had an allstar caliber big man ........

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2007.html

Chauncey and RIP's PERs aren't even in the 20's during their chamiponship run.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/2004.html
 
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farouq710 said:
My conclusion is F*** Lebron we need a great big man now
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Uhh, LeBron IS a great big man...

There's no reason he couldn't play power forward for the right team, especially one with Devin Harris as a point guard.
 
FOMW said:
Of course I figured they would win because I knew there would be more energy (and people) in the stands than usual. Let's hope there's some carryover to tomorrow night.
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I wasn't at the game, but my Dad was, and it apparently was a bit of a ghost town. Only reason the stadium looked full is cause they let the upper deck come down to the lower level.

With that said, the crowd did sound pumped up.
 
King Shake said:
Tell me the Raptors suck. I know they suck right now. They lost to the worst team in the league, and our star player is pissed as fuck.
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OK.

The Raptors suck. Hard. Must be tough to be a fan of such a crappy team.

And Bosh is a no-defense ninny. He can keep his max contract, we'll go shopping for someone else in 2010.
 
ly_yng said:
Uhh, LeBron IS a great big man...

There's no reason he couldn't play power forward for the right team, especially one with Devin Harris as a point guard.
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He plays small forward 80 percent of the time. I don't consider Lebron a true big because he dribbles way to damn much but it could definitely work if he does come here and concedes some of his passing game and stats. I'd rather not wait for a CHANCE at him in two years. I'm saying if we have a shot at trading for a good big man we should take it now. Besides Lebron is at his best as a point forward with the ball in his hands playing with a good shooting PG which is exactly the position he's in right now. I don't see him coming here even if we did move to brooklyn.
 
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