FINDING A PF: Number 1 offseason priority

My bad, did not realize that Faried shots 42% from 10-16, thought he was a lot worse

 

He has no shot beyond that though. I think it's true that Vonleh is a better shooter overall, but for some reason, his mid range shot has totally sucked this year.

I don't know if many Blazer fans realize that Vonleh is actually an imposing physical force. Get a glimpse of his legs next time you watch a game, he can over power many guys. It's just maddening how a guy with that power and huge hands loses the ball so often when going up to finish a play at the rim.

 

I know, too often he goes up slow, don't know if that is mental or physical

 

I like this guy also but he is player that below the rim but there not many plays above the rim now days if there not dunking. He one one the guys I have us picking at 27.

 

Ive read your guys recent posts of Vonleh, but it seems you are referring to the Vonleh of old.
No I haven't seen his mid range shot come back, but he has been way more of a beast in the post and been dunking half his shots. Is that not playing above the rim?

What I havent heard anyone discuss much of is his defensive improvements ( possibly amplified by Nurkic's presence, but nonetheless)
My biggest concern of Noah has been his team D. His man to man is decent, if anything above average, but he never really seemed to see the spacing and know what to do in rotations.
He seems to be sliding around seamlessly now.
So have Dame and CJ. (not the topic, I know)

I really like what I have seen out of him. Even his interviews seem to be more calculated, and yes still somewhat conjectured, but he says things that make me think he is starting to get it. The spacing he needs ot provide for him, Dame and Nurk to all work together.

Can anyone tell i;m pretty optimistic at the moment? lol

 

I agree, last year he was a rather timid player, but it's not because of his athletic ability. Haven't you guys seen glimpses of his explosiveness? It's about motor and confidence, not ability.

 

In Vonlehs case, Like Meyers, I think it is all in the head. Unlike Meyers though, its just a matter of knowing his role for one and confidence gained by playing against the starters in the NBA.
In Meyers case... he just needs a shrink...

 

I think this might be one of the weakest frontlines in the league, if not the weakest. Really I'd not wish even my worst enemy to count on these 4 for the year.

 

What would you guys think if draft night we traded Ed, Aminu, and one of our first round picks for Tristan Thompson? I wonder if Cleveland would be interested, I think Thompson would be the perfect PF next to Nurk.

 

In what way do you think Tristan fits next to Nurk if I may ask?

I don't even see the point in taking back such a bad contract for a player that cannot even shoot a free throw or shoot from 4 ft, but lets say he costs 2M. Why does he fits perfectly next to Nurk? Backup I'd understand, but next to Nurk?

I think this kind of choices (Faried, Amir, OQuinn, Thompson) shows the difference between American (you and of course vast majority of users here) and European (me and definitely vast majority of Europeans) style of thinking. I really cannot stand the thought of a PF not shooting 3s, for me it's a requirement to play the position. I don't say what's right or wrong, it's just my way of thinking that you cannot play PF if you cannot hit a 3, ok or at least a long two but be comfortable with it.

 

Thompson is a great rebounder (especially on offense), great defender, has championship experience, his ft% is odd this year though as he has improved it every year except this one. He's also not TERRIBLE outside of the paint. He shoots .427 from 3-10 and .467 from 10-16. Besides Nurk has the ability to step out and hit jumpers and pass high post, I am seeing Nurk/Thompson as Camby/LA High-Low combo.

 

He can't even dunk off one leg, and usually needs to gather before jumping, so I don't know where this idea of explosiveness comes from? I don't hold it against him, with his length he doesn't even need to be some elite athlete, but let's not pretend he's something he's really not either.

 

He has made 9 shots in 22 attempts from 10+, this doesn't really say much. Let's say .427 is the normal one which isn't that great from 3-10. Ed Davis level.

 

That combo only lasted about 7 games then Camby started mailing it in...he was a total waste of 13 million bucks for the 7 good games he played.

 

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I have a lot of memories of the season Roy went down 2010-11 I believe and Camby/LA went off on the LaMonster alley oop fest. The year after that Camby mailed it in.

 

Vonleh has no problem jumping high enough to dunk, he has a problem missing dunks and losing the ball, which you wouldn't think would be a problem since he has hands the size of Wilt Chamberlin's.

 

I'll take Vonleh as more bang for the buck than Thompson and he's 5 years younger. Thompson is going to want stupid money to sign somewhere. If Olshey brings in an expensive power forward it's going to be a Blake Griffin type guy...and I don't like Blake Griffin....

 

Hes 6'9 with a 7'4+ wingspan, it shouldn't be that hard to get high enough to dunk.

 

I have vivid memories of that season...my least favorite ever and Camby was a big part of that...he did not make us better after the first 7 games of that season..Kurt Thomas was better than Camby

 

He's not a FA till 2020, his average salary is like 16.4 mil which in today's NBA isn't that bad.