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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Reep Well-Known Member

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    There is too little data to make an accurate analysis.
     
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  4. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I wouldn't worry about that. Who knows what algorithm they are using, but they rate Zach Collins as a "great prospect", one of the few they rate that highly outside of the top 4 picks.

    Here's their subjevtive ratings for all of the 1st round picks:

    1. Philadelphia 76ers — Markelle Fultz, Washington guard - Great Prospect

    2. Los Angeles Lakers — Lonzo Ball, UCLA guard - Great Prospect

    3. Boston Celtics — Jayson Tatum, Duke forward - Great Prospect

    4. Phoenix Suns — Josh Jackson, Kansas forward - Great Prospect

    5. Sacramento Kings — De’Aaron Fox, Kentucky point guard - Good Prospect

    6. Orlando Magic — Jonathan Isaac, Florida State forward - Good Prospect

    7. Chicago Bulls — Lauri Markkanen, Arizona forward - OK Prospect

    8. New York Knicks — Frank Ntilinkia, France guard - Great Prospect

    9. Dallas Mavericks — Dennis Smith Jr., NC State guard - Good Prospect

    10. Portland Trail Blazers — Zach Collins, Gonzaga forward - Great Prospect

    11. Charlotte Hornets — Malik Monk, Kentucky guard - Marginal Prospect

    12. Detroit Pistons — Luke Kennard, Duke guard - Marginal Prospect

    13. Utah Jazz — Donovan Mitchell, Louisville guard - OK Prospect

    14. Miami Heat — Bam Adebayo, Kentucky forward - OK Prospect

    15. Sacramento Kings — Justin Jackson, North Carolina guard - Marginal Prospect

    16. Minnesota Timberwolves — Justin Patton, Creighton Center - OK Prospect

    17. Milwaukee Bucks — D.J. Wilson, Michigan forward - Marginal Prospect

    18. Indiana Pacers — T.J. Leaf, UCLA forward - OK Prospect

    19. Atlanta Hawks — John Collins, Wake Forest forward - Good Prospect

    20. Sacramento Kings — Harry Giles, Duke forward - Great Prospect

    21. Oklahoma City Thunder — Terrance Ferguson, Australia guard - Good Prospect

    22. Brooklyn Nets — Jarrett Allen, Texas center - OK Prospect

    23. Toronto Raptors — OG Anunoby, Indiana forward - OK Prospect

    24. Denver Nuggets — Tyler Lydon, Syracuse forward - Marginal Prospect

    25.Philadelphia 76ers — Andzejs Pasecniks, Latvia center - Marginal Prospect

    26. Portland Trail Blazers — Caleb Swanigan, Purdue forward - OK Prospect

    27. Los Angeles Lakers — Kyle Kuzma, Utah forward - Marginal Prospect

    28. Utah Jazz — Tony Bradley, North Carolina center - Great Prospect

    29. San Antonio Spurs — Derrick White, Colorado guard - Marginal Prospect

    30. Los Angeles Lakers –Josh Hart, Villanova guard - Marginal Prospect

    A few others of note, since someone is bound to ask:

    36. Philadelphia 76ers — Jonah Bolden, Australia forward - Marginal Prospect

    37. Boston Celtics — Semi Ojeleye, SMU forward - Marginal Prospect

    38. Golden State Warriors — Jordan Bell, Oregon forward - Marginal Prospect

    Don't shoot the messenger. I'm only sharing information. These guys crunch a lot of numbers, but that doesn't guarantee anything. They only gave Trump a 23% chance of winning the day of the election. So, take any, and all, of their predictions with a grain of salt.

    BNM
     
  5. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Wtf. How do they have Fox and Isaac as only good prospects?
     
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  6. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Who knows, but they have Meyer's Leonard list as a Scrub. So, there is some level of merit to their algorithm.

    BNM
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Any prior years draft? Where is this info? I clicked around and couldnt find it
     
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    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

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    You would have to type there name in manually I think. But outside of Ben Simmons, they hated most of the players from last years draft.
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/brandon-ingram/
     
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    I saw Collins with the most clean block ever on Markelle Fultz who was trying to make a poster out of Collins. It was 100% clean, no contact at all. One of the best blocks I've seen.

    Zach's problem is that he tries to set the tone early in the game with physicality. You need to let the opponent set the tone every once in a while and you adjust it. Instead of vice versa.

    His Bball IQ is off the charts, its a little thing he'll adapt too.
     
  11. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    This block at the 1:34 mark:



    So dirty
     
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    So I'm guessing OK prospect (Swanigan) is better than marginal?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Just click on the Zach Collins link about and then type the players name into the box.

    I have no idea how the calculate a player's 5-year market value, but I find the results interesting none-the-less.

    For example:

    Maurice Harkless = $75 million (we got a bargain!)
    Meyers Leonard = $14.9 million (oopsies!)
    Allen Crabbe = $6.0 million (oh shit!)
    Evan Turner = -$1.0 million (he should be paying us to play here, fuck me!)

    BNM
     
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  14. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Correct.

    BNM
     
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    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Havent seen this posted. Pretty good, even though Holdahl is a painful interview.
     
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    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Ignore the dumb music, but this might be the best clip put together to demonstrate what Collins game is all about

     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Is it just me, or does Collins remind anyone of Fegan Floop, the villain from the Spy Kids movies?

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    BNM
     
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    Is that Pee Wee Herman next to the bad guy off Terminator?
     
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    @MickZagger ...I think it is Alan Cumming next to the bad guy from Terminator.
     
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