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Who would you rather the Blazers trade for Siakam or Simmons

  • Pascal Siakam

    Votes: 50 56.2%

  • Ben Simmons

    Votes: 39 43.8%
  • Total voters
    89
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Who would you rather have in Portland?
 
ben has a far higher ceiling, and most likely a higher cost to acquire.

and if we truly want a chance at becoming a contender w/dame, you give up all that's required to put those two together.
 
Ben Simmons is better at everything besides shooting and I know shooting is a big deal. That being said, he is one of if not the best defender in the league. He is so skilled as a passer and ball handler on offense. He can get to the basket and score anytime he wants to. He's just an athletic freak for his size. He's 25 and has room to improve. He has the dexterity and finesse to learn how to shoot the basketball.
 
the asking price for simmons has been ridiculous thus far. there is no doubt simmons is a better player, but the premium they are asking for him is more than the difference.
 
This is a terrible poll for me because I cannot stand Simmons. I know he’s a good player. I cannot wrap my head around not being able to shoot a basketball for a guy of his skill, athleticism and age. There is simply no excuse. I would throw my tv out a window the first time the blazers were up 5 and he was being intentionally fouled and they lost. At least with Shaq…it was freaking Shaq. I also know someone who works with the Sixers (I said this earlier) who confirms that he isn’t very coachable and has his family and friends too in his ear.
 
BlayZa said:
the asking price for simmons has been ridiculous thus far. there is no doubt simmons is a better player, but the premium they are asking for him is more than the difference.
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They aren't getting the proposals they've been floating out there. If you've noticed they've been reported to be flat turned down... not even counter offered because they are so far away from being what is realistic. Simmons has a lot of great things going for him and he would be more expensive than Siakam but a Harden type of haul would be for a perennial all nba player who has been an MVP or in the MVP conversation. That's not Ben Simmons. Also as much as Philly would love everyone to get selective amnesia, that's not happening. Their relationship with Simmons is not salvageable or at the very least does hurt his trade value.
 
calvin natt said:
This is a terrible poll for me because I cannot stand Simmons. I know he’s a good player. I cannot wrap my head around not being able to shoot a basketball for a guy of his skill, athleticism and age. There is simply no excuse. I would throw my tv out a window the first time the blazers were up 5 and he was being intentionally fouled and they lost. At least with Shaq…it was freaking Shaq. I also know someone who works with the Sixers (I said this earlier) who confirms that he isn’t very coachable and has his family and friends too in his ear.
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No his inability to shoot makes absolutely no sense... none. He has the dexterity, he is an accurate passer, he's extremely coordinated. He should be able to shoot the basketball and most teams should expect that they can fix that but Philly can't tout that on their side of trade offers because they haven't done it.
 
blazerkor said:
They aren't getting the proposals they've been floating out there. If you've noticed they've been reported to be flat turned down... not even counter offered because they are so far away from being what is realistic. Simmons has a lot of great things going for him and he would be more expensive than Siakam but a Harden type of haul would be for a perennial all nba player who has been an MVP or in the MVP conversation. That's not Ben Simmons. Also as much as Philly would love everyone to get selective amnesia, that's not happening. Their relationship with Simmons is not salvageable or at the very least does hurt his trade value.
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they are definitely acting like we just didnt watch him capitulate n flounder when it mattered most.
we may get into fire sales territory, but i guess the question is around do we have a package to get either of the options? dame seems to love CJ and that pairing is in direct contradiction to his demands to improve the team - i wonder if he's willing to let go of the player loyalty to enable some changes. even then, does CJ get it done in a trade as far as value?

i think im mostly jsut resigned to the liklihood that nothing much changes and dame throws some toys regardless and wants to split.
 
James lamphear said:
When wants that much in return it's tell me they really don't want to trade him.
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Maybe that was a lame attempt to show him how much they appreciate and value him after all the disrespect and slander?
 
Siakam is the safe pick.

Simmons is the big dick roll for the better prospect.
 
BBert said:
Maybe that was a lame attempt to show him how much they appreciate and value him after all the disrespect and slander?
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No, it's an obvious attempt to drive up his trade value. Players don't give a fuck about what some reporter says the team requested for them. They just know their team is trying to get rid of them, regardless of what they're asking for in return.
 
calvin natt said:
This is a terrible poll for me because I cannot stand Simmons. I know he’s a good player. I cannot wrap my head around not being able to shoot a basketball for a guy of his skill, athleticism and age. There is simply no excuse. I would throw my tv out a window the first time the blazers were up 5 and he was being intentionally fouled and they lost. At least with Shaq…it was freaking Shaq. I also know someone who works with the Sixers (I said this earlier) who confirms that he isn’t very coachable and has his family and friends too in his ear.
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This is why I chose Siakam.
 
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Chris Craig said:
Who would you rather have in Portland?
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Smart (and stuff)? I voted for Simmons though. Sixers will miss him. Whenever Sixers don’t have him they suck. Remember the 2020 playoffs? Also- Simmons led them on a 16 game win streak in his rookie year! Hot take: Simmons is better than Embiid. The best these Sixers have looked is when Simmons plays and Embiid doesn’t.
 
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Here is the thing about this question -- right now even with Siakam's injury where he will miss the start of the season this is something NO ONE that I have seen but not the point but it is something to consider.

Simmons has a lot more upside if he can get his head on straight and learn to shoot (all shots ) he would be hands DOWN better BUT right now with his issue then i would rather take Siakam cause he is a proven player who we KNOW what we will get from him night in and night out.
 
Simmons easily. I would gladly take Siakam as a very huge upgrade consolation prize. I don’t want to get better though. I want a championship and that means a swing for the fences trade. It’s Simmons AND Simmons is a great piece to rebuild around if for some reason Dame decides to leave.


Again. I love Siakam, but y’all are crazy in how badly you undervalue Simmons. It’s criminal levels of underrated based on a goldfish like memory that seems to only reference this years playoffs and nothing else.
 
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