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ESPN https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/in...ck-draft-projecting-all-58-picks-post-lottery

Amen Thompson
Overtime Elite
PG/SG
Age: 20.2
Thompson is arguably the most physically gifted prospect in this class, standing 6-7, with an NBA-ready frame, thermonuclear explosiveness in the open floor and the defensive versatility to guard point guards through power forwards. His size and creativity as both a passer and finisher give him intriguing versatility to play a variety of roles.


Yahoo https://sports.yahoo.com/2023-nba-m...mbanyamas-future-team-revealed-012751198.html

Ht./Wt.: 6-7, 202 pounds | Overtime Elite
Amen and his twin brother, Ausar, are electric athletes with a blazing first step. He’s a very smart ball-handler who edges out his brother as the better visionary when he’s leading the point. He's a meticulous student of the game who carries himself well on and off the court. The biggest knock on his game is his spot-up shooting, particularly from 3-point range, but with his work ethic and NBA training, many are optimistic that his shot will start to come along.


Fox Sports https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/nba-post-lottery-mock-draft-spurs-set-on-victor-wembanyama

Amen Thompson, G, Overtime Elite
The 6-7, 20-year-old is the best prospect from the Overtime Elite program in Atlanta, serving as a high-level playmaker and elite distributor. His quickness in transition and burst to go above the rim are on another level, and Thompson tries to create those types of sequences by being a really steady defender that blows up plays with his activity on that end of the floor.



 
Thompson Twins comparison

Hoops Hierarchy actually rate Ausar a bit higher even though Amen may have the higher ceiling. That is due to Ausar being not quite as good of a passer, but a better shooter and a better defender.

 
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Trade Dame to Orlando for a haul including the 6 pick and get both of them. Ant, Sharpe and the Thompsons. LFG.

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Ausar measures out almost the exact same as Amen physically but has bigger hands and a half inch higher standing reach. Ausar is probably the better fit if we are talking about drafting someone and keeping Dame. Plays SG/SF and is the better shooter. He's not going to need the ball to be successful.

Amen definitely has a higher ceiling but it would be harder for him to grow as a playmaker here. I would take Amen if Dame was shipped off though.

I like trading down with the Magic to take Ausar if Wagner/#6/#11 was available.
 
Trade Dame to Orlando for a haul including the 6 pick and get both of them. Ant, Sharpe and the Thompsons. LFG.

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The #6 and #11 are attractive as they are Lottery picks NOW versus having to wait till the future for an undetermined 1st round position. I'd want Hendricks at #6 if he was there and would want Wagner included. At #11, I'd trust Schmitz if he wanted Leonard Miller.....more length and size. IF....we are going to trade Dame, that is the type of return I want. Plus, he would get to play with WCJ and Paolo which would be more big talent than he has had in a long time.
 
If we are trading Dame to the Magic, I definitely would want Wagner. Not including Wagner would be a non-starter in a trade package from them, to me.

The #6 and #11 are attractive as they are Lottery picks NOW versus having to wait till the future for an undetermined 1st round position. I'd want Hendricks at #6 if he was there and would want Wagner included. At #11, I'd trust Schmitz if he wanted Leonard Miller.....more length and size. IF....we are going to trade Dame, that is the type of return I want. Plus, he would get to play with WCJ and Paolo which would be more big talent than he has had in a long time.

Y'all realize I was kidding, right? There's no way that Orlando sees themselves as ready to make a win-now move like that. Zero chance of that happening.
 
So he's the Bruce Jenner of Bball players. What's with all these highlights with a bunch of freakin' dunks. Who cares. The dude can't hit 3's, and he sucks at the freethrow line. This is the NBA, not NBA 2K. All these video's say, "He's a freakish athlete, the greatest athlete i've seen. Whatever. I want guys who finish.
 
What about your post signaled you were kidding? Lol.
I think that awful trade scenario is why. Fultz is a nice player, not great. Sir Isaac Newton has as good a chance to play games in the NBA as the oft injured Jonathon Isaac does. He been more injured than Oden. Plus with Dame, those picks would most likely end up being middle of the road at best. Dame added to Banchero, Wagner, and Carter Jr. is pretty awesome.
 
What about your post signaled you were kidding? Lol.
Nothing. I just assumed people understand that Orlando is not in a win-now position, and that them trading for Dame would be silly, thus making a trade prop like that an obvious farce.
 
Nothing. I just assumed people understand that Orlando is not in a win-now position, and that them trading for Dame would be silly, thus making a trade prop like that an obvious farce.
It makes as much sense to me as trade proposals that we should trade away Dame but then acquire veteran win now players.

So yeah I just assume the posters think all of these are legit ideas because there are so many ridiculous ones.
 
The more I watch Amen, the more I have him as my favorite for us to draft. I don’t see the star potential in Miller. He could make the ASG a couple of times like Ingram, but I don’t see a 6-10x AS in him. Scoot’s athleticism and mid range game reminds me of DRose with Edwards’ demeanor, but he’s 6’2.

Amen is 6’7 in shoes and can be a legit PG in the future. But he’s also the size where he could also be your SF of the future. He’s going to make mistakes like all rookies do, but he WILL make an impact on this team almost immediately as a defender and cutter.

I think you start Dame and Ant, sub in Sharpe early at SG, then sub in Amen at SF and Ant in for Dame.

With Dame, give him defenders and a PnR partner:
Dame/Sharpe/____/Grant/Nurk

With Simons, give him defenders and let them play more freely:
Ant/Sharpe/Amen/Watford/____

With Mays, you’ll be putting him in the position he’s meant to play, third string PG rather than a backup PG.
 
The more I watch Amen, the more I have him as my favorite for us to draft. I don’t see the star potential in Miller. He could make the ASG a couple of times like Ingram, but I don’t see a 6-10x AS in him. Scoot’s athleticism and mid range game reminds me of DRose with Edwards’ demeanor, but he’s 6’2.

Amen is 6’7 in shoes and can be a legit PG in the future. But he’s also the size where he could also be your SF of the future. He’s going to make mistakes like all rookies do, but he WILL make an impact on this team almost immediately as a defender and cutter.

I think you start Dame and Ant, sub in Sharpe early at SG, then sub in Amen at SF and Ant in for Dame.

With Dame, give him defenders and a PnR partner:
Dame/Sharpe/____/Grant/Nurk

With Simons, give him defenders and let them play more freely:
Ant/Sharpe/Amen/Watford/____

With Mays, you’ll be putting him in the position he’s meant to play, third string PG rather than a backup PG.
There’s just no way we draft this dude and keep Dame. He isn’t going to be happy with another young project. If Amen is the guy, so be it, but he’s not going to be a player that keeps Dame excited.
 
There’s just no way we draft this dude and keep Dame. He isn’t going to be happy with another young project. If Amen is the guy, so be it, but he’s not going to be a player that keeps Dame excited.

Very possible your right. But maybe not.

Dame seems to talk himself into overrating his friends, teammates, people that he has history with, and an underdog role.

Also, Amen is older than Sharpe and isn't like Scoot where he plays Dames position.

I wouldn't be shocked if Dame decides to give it another year even if the team didn't get him the veteran help he ideally wanted. Especially if they get an MLE signing Dame likes. And especially if he feels Cronin made every effort to get him what he wanted.

Regardless, even if Dame decides to leave, I think the Blazers need to draft BPA and just deal with Dame wanting out or staying once that's decided.
 
Love seeing this. The more the merrier. It increases the value of the pick as different teams will fall in love with different players. Forget the level of talent they played against this year and evaluate them the same way they did with Shaeden Sharpe.
 
Very possible your right. But maybe not.

Dame seems to talk himself into overrating his friends, teammates, people that he has history with, and an underdog role.

Also, Amen is older than Sharpe and isn't like Scoot where he plays Dames position.

I wouldn't be shocked if Dame decides to give it another year even if the team didn't get him the veteran help he ideally wanted. Especially if they get an MLE signing Dame likes. And especially if he feels Cronin made every effort to get him what he wanted.

Regardless, even if Dame decides to leave, I think the Blazers need to draft BPA and just deal with Dame wanting out or staying once that's decided.
One thing I’ve admired about Dame, he knows what’s best for business. Schmitz needs to do a good job selling Dame on a prospect. I think Amen can get a good 15 mpg like what Sharpe got.

If Amen were on the Blazers, his defense is going to be what keeps him on the floor. With athleticism comparable to Sharpe, Amen can have an early impact just from cuts to the basket and hustling on defense.

Offensively, Sharpe also showed a promising jumper, which Amen obviously doesn’t have yet. But similarly to how Sharpe surprised us with early signs of a jumpshot, I think Amen will show early flashes of being a real primary decision maker. Amen’s shooting is going to be an eyesore, but so was Sharpe’s handles. Lonzo took three years to be a good shooter. Fox still isn’t a good shooter.

Sharpe + Thompson - sign me up for this tandem for the next 8 years.
 
One thing I’ve admired about Dame, he knows what’s best for business. Schmitz needs to do a good job selling Dame on a prospect. I think Amen can get a good 15 mpg like what Sharpe got.

If Amen were on the Blazers, his defense is going to be what keeps him on the floor. With athleticism comparable to Sharpe, Amen can have an early impact just from cuts to the basket and hustling on defense.

Offensively, Sharpe also showed a promising jumper, which Amen obviously doesn’t have yet. But similarly to how Sharpe surprised us with early signs of a jumpshot, I think Amen will show early flashes of being a real primary decision maker. Amen’s shooting is going to be an eyesore, but so was Sharpe’s handles. Lonzo took three years to be a good shooter. Fox still isn’t a good shooter.

Sharpe + Thompson - sign me up for this tandem for the next 8 years.

Dame wants the blazers to assemble a championship-caliber team now (correction: x years ago), not in two years or beyond.
I understand where he is coming from.
He has always played great his entire career for us but we never gave him a legit shot, mostly because olshey made too many mistakes.
Now Dame wants us to make up for it by giving him a chance to win a championship in Portland, now, while he's still good.
To do so, we would have to sacrifice present and future draft capital in addition to players.

Is it possible to assemble contender? Yes!
Will it guarantee a championship? No!
Does giving Dame what he wants now contradict the welfare of Cronin's and Shmitz's careers? Yes!
Is Dame being unfair for his demands? No!

I'm sure Cronin and Shmitz would rather use the draft pick.
But because of Dame, they will probably trade it along with Ant and even future draft capital.
That's what "pushing all your chips" mean.
That's what "It's time to compete at the highest levels" mean.
 
Y'all realize I was kidding, right? There's no way that Orlando sees themselves as ready to make a win-now move like that. Zero chance of that happening.
on top of that, while I think anyone can be traded, moving Dame to Orlando... ah no. If they were ever to move him I'm sure it will be to a situation favorable to him

STOMP
 
I'm sure Cronin and Shmitz would rather use the draft pick.
But because of Dame, they will probably trade it along with Ant and even future draft capital.
That's what "pushing all your chips" mean.
That's what "It's time to compete at the highest levels" mean.
I don't believe what GM's say and that goes double for new GM's. Joe has had every reason to say things that will make Dame happy going into the offseason as that keeps his options open, but decision time is coming soon.

STOMP
 
It seems like it would require multiple teams involved to get back what Damian Lillard is worth. I just don't see it happening.
 
"Box-and-One with Coach Spins" has Amen as the 3rd best prospect in this draft behind Frenchie and the Scoot.
He had Sharpe at #5 on his Big Board last season. Banchero/Chet/Ivey/Jabari Smith/Sharpe
 
"Box-and-One with Coach Spins" has Amen as the 3rd best prospect in this draft behind Frenchie and the Scoot.
He had Sharpe at #5 on his Big Board last season. Banchero/Chet/Ivey/Jabari Smith/Sharpe

His shot is fugly.
 

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