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Suppose (a) Dame has a change of heart and stays with us
(b) in two years, there are a couple of expansion teams added to the league, with the expansion draft that that entails.

...would you leave Dame unprotected in the draft? (After all, we did it to Jerome Kersey...)
 
rewind it back to Lillard going public with "I ain't no ring chaser, don't care what other people think." It gave me the idea that Lillard loves being in Portland, and doesn't mind being on a stinky Blazers team that gives him paid vacation to lose on purpose.

what happened? What changed?

there must have been a big time falling out between Lillard and team management. The GM can't just openly lie to a 7x All-Star about making the team better while doing everything possible to make the team worse.
 
Natebishop3 said:
How did he openly lie?
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this is what Cronin told Blazer fans after 2023 deadline

"“The goal that we set when I started this job was to build a championship roster around Damian Lillard, so over the past year we’ve been transacting with that goal in mind. The goal going into this trade deadline was to be extremely aggressive."

> trading starting SF Josh Hart for 3 waived players, and a Philly bench guy is anything but aggressive

"Accumulate as many assets as possible in order to make a big push for high-end talent"

> who, where? Does tanking for picks count as the big push for high-end talent ?

"“We’re trying to support these guys with real defenders, with real size, with real length."

> Blazers are down 1 legit NBA Center. Asking Nurkic to hold down the fort while the little guys run around and pad stats is how the Blazers ended up in the lottery.

If Cronin is saying this stuff to Blazer fans, I'm sure the fabrication was cranked up even stronger being closed doors with Lillard.
 
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Whyachi said:
this is what Cronin told Blazer fans after 2023 deadline

"“The goal that we set when I started this job was to build a championship roster around Damian Lillard, so over the past year we’ve been transacting with that goal in mind. The goal going into this trade deadline was to be extremely aggressive."

> trading starting SF Josh Hart for 3 waived players, and a Philly bench guy is anything but aggressive

"Accumulate as many assets as possible in order to make a big push for high-end talent"

> who, where? Does tanking for picks count as the big push for high-end talent ?

"“We’re trying to support these guys with real defenders, with real size, with real length."

> Blazers are down 1 legit NBA Center. Asking Nurkic to hold down the fort while the little guys run around and pad stats is how the Blazers ended up in the lottery.

If Cronin is saying this stuff to Blazer fans, I'm sure the fabrication was cranked up even stronger being closed doors with Lillard.
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Tanking for picks to then trade is definitely a way of stockpiling assets to make a big push for talent. Also, we got a FRP from NYK for Hart which was an amazing return. Stockpiling assets is needed when the cupboard is bare due to Olshey being one of the worst GMs in my lifetime if not THE worst. Unlike rumors during Olshey’s reign I cannot think of any rumors that Cronin turned down a trade for a Star. Can you? No. Ergo, its speculation. It doesn’t seem Cronin had any decent offers and if they asked for Sharpe and/or Scoot and we weren’t getting an All Star wing, Joe made the right call.
 
Whyachi said:
this is what Cronin told Blazer fans after 2023 deadline

"“The goal that we set when I started this job was to build a championship roster around Damian Lillard, so over the past year we’ve been transacting with that goal in mind. The goal going into this trade deadline was to be extremely aggressive."

> trading starting SF Josh Hart for 3 waived players, and a Philly bench guy is anything but aggressive

"Accumulate as many assets as possible in order to make a big push for high-end talent"

> who, where? Does tanking for picks count as the big push for high-end talent ?

"“We’re trying to support these guys with real defenders, with real size, with real length."

> Blazers are down 1 legit NBA Center. Asking Nurkic to hold down the fort while the little guys run around and pad stats is how the Blazers ended up in the lottery.

If Cronin is saying this stuff to Blazer fans, I'm sure the fabrication was cranked up even stronger being closed doors with Lillard.
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There is no lie in there. Cronin got the best value possible given what he had available.
 
The blazers have not been that stocked with talent since the lma-dame years. The only issue is that the talent timeline is mismatched because of market conditions.

There was no lie made, just people putting their own expectations over reality
 
andalusian said:
The blazers have not been that stocked with talent since the lma-dame years. The only issue is that the talent timeline is mismatched because of market conditions.

There was no lie made, just people putting their own expectations over reality
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Even then.... I remember those LMA teams had a great starting five and no bench at all. The year we finally made it to the second round was when we added Mo Williams and Dorell Wright, but even that team had an extremely young bench. Not surprisingly, the next time that we actually looked legit, we added Hood, Kanter, Curry, etc.

Almost like having a solid, veteran bench who can consistently contribute will actually help your team win.

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Dame must realize Portland is asking Miami to show them (and Dame) how much they value him.

Portland wasn't willing to sacrifice their future for a slight improvement. (And this is what caused Dame to ask out)

Now if Miami isn't willing to give us what Dame is worth. Dame must be feeling not valued by them.

He broke up with his girl to be with someone, someone who unfortunately didn't love him back.
 
inconceivable said:
Dame must realize Portland is asking Miami to show them (and Dame) how much they value him.

Portland wasn't willing to sacrifice their future for a slight improvement. (And this is what caused Dame to ask out)

Now if Miami isn't willing to give us what Dame is worth. Dame must be feeling not valued by them.

He broke up with his girl to be with someone, someone who unfortunately didn't love him back.
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I keep reading he broke up with his wife. Is there a citation for that, or just speculation? When I type in divorce all I get is "Seeking Amicable Divorce from Blazers". Any links?
 
Idog1976 said:
I keep reading he broke up with his wife. Is there a citation for that, or just speculation? When I type in divorce all I get is "Seeking Amicable Divorce from Blazers". Any links?
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It was an analogy.
 
Idog1976 said:
I keep reading he broke up with his wife. Is there a citation for that, or just speculation? When I type in divorce all I get is "Seeking Amicable Divorce from Blazers". Any links?
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I don't think it's been made official, but it's been referenced on podcasts and people in the know have mostly confirmed it.

I have no doubt it's going on.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't think it's been made official, but it's been referenced on podcasts and people in the know have mostly confirmed it.

I have no doubt it's going on.
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Yeah I thought that's what I had heard floating around, so Dame and his wife split huh?
 
Hypothetically, what if Jody agrees to sell the team to an investor group led by Carmelo and including Dame? Can Dame play as part-owner?

Dame agrees to remain a Blazer and after four years he signs a new contract at a low salary, opening up opportunity to re-sign our young players of today.

He retires a Blazer and part owner of the team…with Melo and other investors. Moda Center renamed after Dame’s dealership of course.

perhaps Phil Knight fronts the big dollars and is majority owner for the next five years or so?
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Hypothetically, what if Jody agrees to sell the team to an investor group led by Carmelo and including Dame? Can Dame play as part-owner?

Dame agrees to remain a Blazer and after four years he signs a new contract at a low salary, opening up opportunity to re-sign our young players of today.

He retires a Blazer and part owner of the team…with Melo and other investors. Moda Center renamed after Dame’s dealership of course.

perhaps Phil Knight fronts the big dollars and is majority owner for the next five years or so?
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wasn't that apart of the new CBA, that players could invest into teams now as current players? i remember someone saying it was more geared towards the WNBA teams but never remember reading much else bout it.
 
cheesehoff said:
If it's true, Dame's marital situation could be affecting his trade demands. Anyone that's divorced can attest to how much it can mess with your mind.
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Not a great time to make huge decisions imo. Need's to be a cooling off and clear the mind period. And when kids are involved best to be composed and near by.
 
I have seen nothing to suggest Dame’s personal life has changed.
 
BonesJones said:
Hi!
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Response was to him saying "Nobody is saying Cronin Lied". It's been said and it still get said.
I personally don't know one way or another. Seems like a pretty far fetched idea to me. A GM cannot afford to have a reputation of lying to his best players. Even Dame has come out and said Jody has never treated him badly. I assume that would include Joe?
 
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