Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

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  1. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    I will say the assets so far offered aren't good enough for me to give up on three more seasons of Damian Lillard.

    I would change my position if the Blazers aren't a top-8 team with Lillard. Then I might think of trading him for even the current offer.

    In any case, the Blazers best option , unless a great trade offer appears, is to keep Dame and play him until a better offer appears.

    Roster decisions are difficult for many teams. That's not something that should be or needs to be decided now.
     
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    Do you even know what those assets offered are? How do you know if they are good enough or not?
     
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    I guess I'm confused why you quoted me saying Barnes would be a good centerpiece to a Dame deal by mentioning we already have PROSPECTS, we need a :EGIT 4/5, and then go on to list Barnes as a legit 4/5?

    Also seems silly to have quoted me in such a way, and then list Hendricks, Walker, Eason, Sochan when those guys are nothing but potential at this point.
     
  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    The Blazers (as currently constructed) aren't a top-8 team with Lillard. That's almost a certainty.
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    An asset is only worth what people are willing to pay for it, and that is dictated by the market.

    How big of a market is there for a 33 year old 6'3 point guard who doesn't play defense and is being paid a shit ton of money?

    Three more years of Dame is three fewer years of Scoot starting at point guard. That makes no sense if the plan is to rebuild. The team has to weigh all the factors, which includes the impact on the young guys.

    In a vacuum, you have something you want to sell/trade, you know how much you want to get for that asset, and you get what you want. Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way. If there aren't many people interested in your asset, that limits your options on what you can get for it. Even if your asset is worth more, if you don't have time to wait for a better offer, sometimes you have to take what you can get. My gas oven has been sitting in my garage for three weeks because nobody has made an offer. I keep lowering the price. Eventually I will hit a price that someone is willing to pay. I could keep it at a price and just wait for as long as it takes to get someone, but I don't need that oven anymore and I want it out of my garage. So I keep lowering the price.
     
  6. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Dame has limited being traded to one team.
    Answer this question: What motivation does that team have to give up anything significant that may affect winning in the upcoming season?

    Do you think making a trade with Miami right now is the best course of action?
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    You are assuming Scoot and Dame can't start in the backcourt.
    Why?
    Scoot's bigger than McCollum and Simons. He's 6' 3 1/2" and solid as a rock.
     
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dame needs the ball in his hands.

    Scoot needs the ball in his hands.

    I'm so tired of undersized backcourts.
     
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    No, it's not "almost a certainty."

    After watching last season, your conclusion seems nearly ridiculous.

    Even after losing their main bench veteran, Justise Winslow, the Blazers were 1 game under .500 in early February.

    Nurkic only played 2 minutes in the month of February on February 1st.

    On February 5th, the Blazers were 1 game out of the 8th seed, 1.5 games out of the 7th and 6th seed, 2 games out of the 5th seed, and 2.5 games out of the 4th seed.

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    This is the box score on February 1st. I think the current roster should be better than that one.

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    My response is that you have no idea how effective that backcourt would be.

    Did you think Magic Johnson and Norm Nixon would work? That backcourt won 2 championships in 3 seasons.
    Did you think James Harden and Chris Paul would work? That backcourt won a franchise-high 65 games and nearly took out the Warriors in the WC finals.

    Lillard is a very high-level talent. Scoot at least will be the best passer and ball handler on the team.
    It would be dumb not to play them together and see how it works out.
     
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    At some point, it's not worth the headache anymore, and it makes sense to just take it to the dump rather than let the 33 year old asset continue to take up space.

    barfo
     
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Hmmmm intersting comparisons...

    You mean 6'9 Magic Johnson and 6'2 Norm Nixon?

    Also, 6'5 James Harden and 6'0 Chris Paul?

    So you think two 6'3 point guards are the same thing?
     
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    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    A healthy and engaged Nurk is critical for any hope of winning games this season.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm not impatient about it, but is anyone else just over all this? Like I just stopped caring about the whole situation lol
     
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    Yeah, pretty much in same place
     
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    Can we all please stop saying Dame has three more years please? He has a player option for a fourth year at $63,228,828. He will be opting in on that. At age 37 nobody will be offering him more than that for that season. He has four seasons on his contract. That is all.
     
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    I pushed the wrong button. I meant to reply to the post you replied to.

    I meant to reply to this post:

    "as for Jovic/Jaquez, that we're even debating their value in a Dame trade shows how shitty a Miami trade would be"

    We want Barnes-level, not Jovic/Jacquez because they just have similar level potential as Kris and Rayan. Barnes is more proven than them all.
     
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    I think you’re mistaken.
     
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  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dame said on the JJ Redick podcast that he has 3-4 more years at a high level. We're not talking contract. We're talking production.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    That's ok. I'd love to be wrong. But I don't see this summer's very young additions making the team any better than last year's version.
     
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