St. Louis Cardinals vs New York Mets

Fuck the Mets.

Mets in 5.

No way,its gonna be alot closer series than most think. Cards have the pitching and their offense is starting to come around a bit while the Mets have almost no pitching and a stellar offense. The better pitching team is gonna win this series AND the World Series.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jenkz @ Oct 8 2006, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No way,its gonna be alot closer series than most think. Cards have the pitching and their offense is starting to come around a bit while the Mets have almost no pitching and a stellar offense. The better pitching team is gonna win this series AND the World Series.</div>The Cardinals have Chris Carpenter, who won't pitch now until at least Game 3 and then a bunch of Terrible starting pitching alongside him. Sorry dude, but your kidding yourself if you think the Mets Offense won't tear apart Jeff Weaver, Jeff Suppan, and Jason Marquis just like they do to all Mediocre at best Right-Handed Pitchers. Once you guys lost Mark Mulder down to injury you lost this series IMO, as the Mets only really struggle against Left-Handed Pitching. Plus, The Cardinals bullpen is seriously hurt without an Injured Jason Isringhausen, as Late in a Playoff Game, if you guys do have a lead, do you really trust Wainwright in a Big Spot? And to be honest, even with Isringhausen they arent Close to as Good as the Mets Bullpen has been....The Mets have the Best Bullpen in Baseball, having 8 Relievers with an ERA of 3.62 or lower, and 5 Relievers with an ERA Under 3 .... And That's not even including the Injured Duaner Sanchez. With a bullpen like that, It allows the Mets Starting Pitching to go 4.1, 6 and 3.1 Innings like they did in the Divisional Series on route to allowing only 3 Runs. Our Starting Pitching will be on an extremely short leash and will be pulled after the First Sign of Trouble. John Maine and Steve Trachsel have been argueably our best 2 Starting Pitchers this entire season, even with a healthy Pedro and El Duque, so im not really concerned about them as I have full confidence in them. And while Steve Trachsel and Oliver Perez are questionable, they have gotten Great Run Support all season long and will be on that extremly short leash as I mentioned above and wont be allowed to give up 3-4 Runs.My predicition is that the Mets will take the First 2 Games, lose Game 3 (The Game Chris Carpenter pitches vs. Trachsel/Perez), and then win the Other 2. You're right. The Team with the better pitching will win, but I'm pretty sure that team is the Mets.

mETS in 4.

Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.</div>Who's your cousin on the Cardinals?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Oct 9 2006, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.</div>Who's your cousin on the Cardinals?</div>Randy Fucking Flores, who else?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Oct 9 2006, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.</div>Who's your cousin on the Cardinals?</div>Randy Fucking Flores, who else?</div>That's still pretty cool. No matter what.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Oct 9 2006, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.</div>Who's your cousin on the Cardinals?</div>Randy Fucking Flores, who else?</div>Boring. Should've been Pujols!Floyd out for the post-season. Smooth move trading Nady.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Oct 9 2006, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Floyd out for the post-season. Smooth move trading Nady.</div>Mets havent said anything about Floyd being out for the Post-season. Anything you have heard is just speculation at this point in time as they've just shut him down for a few days and are going to Re-evaluate the Condition of his leg likely Wednesday Morning to see if it is in Playable Condition or Not. Cliff Floyd has said himself he hopes to be back at the very least as a DH for the World Series and hopefully they havent yet ruled him out for playing in the NLCS either.Either way though, the Mets Offense will be just fine If Endy Chavez is in there instead, As you could make the case that hes the Better Player Right Now Considering how banged up Cliff Floyd is. Endy Chavez - .306/.348/.431, 4 HR, 42 RBI, 12 Stolen Bases, 48 Runs, and Gold Glove Caliber Defense. (353 AB)Cliff Floyd - .244/.324/.407, 11 HR, 44 RBI, 6 Stolen Bases, 45 Runs, Decent Defensively (332 AB)The Difference without Floyd is that the Mets have a Weaker Bench and Less Power in the Lineup, but they are Stronger at Contact Hitting, Faster and will play Better Defense. Not exactly a bad trade off. PS: The Xavier Nady trade is completely irrelevant at this point in time, as the Mets made up for that move by trading for Shawn Green. :whistling:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Oct 9 2006, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Oct 9 2006, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.</div>Who's your cousin on the Cardinals?</div>Randy Fucking Flores, who else?</div>Are you serious??P.S. FUCK THE CARDINALS!!

Mark My WordsThe Mets will sweep in the cards. You heard it here first.

[quote name='GotSkillz92' post='72274' date='Oct 10 2006, 02:22 PM']Mark My WordsThe Mets will sweep in the cards. You heard it here first.[/quote]Mets better have some pitching or else they won't be going anywhere. Hell, i trust Adam Wainwright over Billy Wagner in the 9th inning.[quote name='Moose87' post='72255' date='Oct 10 2006, 12:07 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='72132' date='Oct 9 2006, 01:58 PM'][quote name='Rex Grossman 8' post='72124' date='Oct 9 2006, 11:38 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='72123' date='Oct 9 2006, 12:36 PM']Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.[/quote]Who's your cousin on the Cardinals?[/quote]Randy Fucking Flores, who else?[/quote]Are you serious??P.S. FUCK THE CARDINALS!![/quote]Poor, poor Cubs fan. :LMAO:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Oct 10 2006, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Oct 10 2006, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mark My WordsThe Mets will sweep in the cards. You heard it here first.</div>Mets better have some pitching or else they won't be going anywhere. Hell, i trust Adam Wainwright over Billy Wagner in the 9th inning.</div>Are you serious?Just look at what Wags has done the Past 4 months. Lights Out.Post All-Star Break - 1.99 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 22 of 23 in Save Opportunities. Round 1 of Playoffs - 3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 4 K, 2 of 2 in Save Opportunities.Id take somebody making saves at a 96% rate as of late over anybody else not named Mariano Rivera

[quote name='Moose87' post='72255' date='Oct 10 2006, 10:07 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='72132' date='Oct 9 2006, 01:58 PM'][quote name='Rex Grossman 8' post='72124' date='Oct 9 2006, 11:38 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='72123' date='Oct 9 2006, 12:36 PM']Go Cardinals!Sorry, blood is thick and my cousin plays for the Cardinals.[/quote]Who's your cousin on the Cardinals?[/quote]Randy Fucking Flores, who else?[/quote]Are you serious??P.S. FUCK THE CARDINALS!![/quote]Yeah. He's my Grandma's Nephew. AKA My Mother's 1st-Cousin.

Mets have one hit through 5 vs Weaver. :LMAO:

Beltran just blasted a 2 run hr. hahaaha. we up 2-0 and Glavine is pitching a gem. Game 1 is ours.

Mets won Game 1 2-0 after a good game by Tom Glavine and a Carlos Beltran Home Run.

Albert Pujols is crying :whistling: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"He wasn't good. He wasn't good at all," Pujols said of Glavine, who threw seven innings of four-hit ball for the victory. "I think we hit the ball hard, we didn't get some breaks."I say he wasn't good at all. We just didn't get some opportunities and that's it. . . . (Glavine did the) same thing that he always does. Throw a changeup, fastball and that was it. I just think we should've done a better job than we did."</div>

Its disrespectful of him to do this. Calling out a veteran like this who is actually a winner unlike Pujols. They hit the ball hard but defense always prevails. Pujols went 0-4 and had shitty baserunning. The Mets just played a better game offensively and defensively.

2 run homer for Edmonds. 4-4. :beerbang2:

Another hr by Delgado and a rbi double by Lo Duca. :whistling: :flipa:

Spiezio 2 run triple!!!! :beerbang2: :beerbang2: :beerbang2:

9-6 Cardinals!!!

Well damn,I thought gotskillz was 100% confident the Mets were gonna sweep the Cards. That many runs against that "amazing Mets bullpen" isnt something to brag about eiither. So again, I say this is gonna be a close series.

Pitching was horrible all i gotta say. We shouldve won this by a lot.

Yo Adrop. What's up? What reliever did you say you'd take again? I think it was Wagner. Yeah, it was. How'd he do last night?

How'd your twins do. They didnt even win a game those choke artists. We proved we could shutdown pujols and own carpenter. A game just got by us. We'll make it up 2day.

It's just one game, and we got the best pitcher in the NL out of the way.....Im not too worried as I like our chances the next few games and I think we're capable of taking at least 2 out of 3 In St. Louis personally. I expected to lose a much lower scoring game to Carpenter, and instead our bullpen (Mota and Wagner) struggled and gave one away. A loss is a loss though, it would have only been icing on the cake had we been able to beat Carpenter IMO. I will say though, that Willie Randolph needs to stop using Guillermo Mota in big situations though, as he has allowed 5 Runs in 5.2 Innings this postseason so far. He has been rather unreliable in the playoffs and we need to start using Roberto Hernandez, Chad Bradford, or Pedro Feliciano in the 7th Innings. Billy Wagner has been dominant for about 4 months now, so even though he had the occasional slip-up I dont think its something overly serious as he'll probably rebound nicely tonight (Should he be used).